[Pandazoot]

The show is full of characters with a hidden agenda and that's what I love about them. There was that really great scene a couple episodes ago where Littlefinger and the Varys were talking to each other and it was like they were having a competition to see who could be the most slimiest character. The only character I find hard to like is Sansa. That's not a criticism of the actress, it's got to be hard to make a whiny teenager likeable.

[Azazel]

I watched the first episode, having heard people compare it to Lord of the Rings and what not, so I may have been expecting something different. It wasn't what I expected, at least. I found it dull. The whole setting, the atmosphere and the characters but a few struck me plainly as dull. I loved the intro with the 'walkers' and all, that was rather thrilling.

Few issues. In this first episode, I saw eight or nine sets of tits, three sex scenes, some pubes, a Dwarf getting rubbed, there was lots of loud moaning every other scene, and it all just felt very... randy. Don't get me wrong, I'm a heterosexual guy in my best age and I love tits, but it was a bit much when expecting Hobbits and wizards.

Oh, and then there's the dialogue. I don't know if this is set in the olden days, or in more of a parallel universe, which would allow for a bit more free interpretation, but it seems very basic, and they tend to speak what sounds like a modern tongue, full of "won'ts", "don'ts" as opposed to "will nots", "do nots". They flung "f*cks" around like there was no tomorrow, as well. Just seems off.

Maybe I'm just being silly.

[jelly]

Well I guess it's because you were misled. It's definitely not Lord of the Rings, it's not meant to be either.

[Otter]

QUOTE (ajbns87 @ May 27 2011, 02:59)

think im going to do the same, is it an easy read? I m not much of a reader....

If you can find the audio books (at least the first three, and only the versions read by Roy Dotrice) OMG you'll love it!!!! He does the voices like SO well and stuff.

I like a lot of the characters! Ned, Sansa, Tyrion, Jon Snow (hawt), Danyries, Robb, Bran... i mean they're all 'real' people so they all have dark sides and faults but thats what makes it fun.

OMG i was pissed not to see the dire wolves in the scene where Robb rescued Bran! c'mon!!!

book spoilers: Robb and his wolf become really close through diff battles. Another thing Jaime kinda redeems himself and i hope they don't stray too far from how that goes down.... they've been pretty true so far but for some reason dismemberment doesn't play well off of test audiences... ha..

edit - charlie - it's a gritty world, there's an aristocracy and pomposity with dudes like baelish and varyies and the rest of the lords and ladies but id bet my left tit that knights never spoke the King's. I like the sex obvs but there have been at least two or three scenes so far that seem to be added purely for sexiness. I think youe expectation are what f*cked it up for you so far - keep with it, its awesome



This post has been edited by Otter on Friday, May 27 2011, 16:17

[ajbns87]

QUOTE (Otter @ May 27 2011, 16:11)

Jon Snow (hawt), Danyries, Robb, Bran... i mean they're all 'real' people so they all have dark sides and faults but thats what makes it fun. OMG i was pissed not to see the dire wolves in the scene where Robb rescued Bran! c'mon!!! book spoilers: Robb and his wolf become really close through diff battles.  Another thing Jaime kinda redeems himself and i hope they don't stray too far from how that goes down.... they've been pretty true so far but for some reason dismemberment doesn't play well off of test audiences... ha.. [/color]

Thanks for that reccomendation, will definitely be on the look out for that

I too wished we could see more of the direwolves, i love dogs...
i read that a lot of people, i mean stupid softies were traumatised when ned had to kill lady

RR Martin mentioned it in his blog http://grrm.livejournal.com/216015.html

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It has come to my attention that a number of television viewers (mostly those who had not read my books and did not know what was coming)were shocked and upset by what befell Sansa's direwolf Lady at the end of the second episode of HBO's GAME OF THRONES. Good. I mean, that was kind of the point. But some people were reportedly so shocked and upset that they wrote angry blogs about it, and even declared that they would not continue watching the show. Not so good. Obviously, I'm sorry to hear that. I don't know if any of those people are reading my Not A Blog. But in case they are, perhaps it will make you feel a little better to know that Zunni, the Northern Inuit who played Lady, is alive and well, and has been adopted by Sophie Turner, the lovely young actress who plays Sansa in the show. We didn't really kill her. (Rhodri Hosking, the young actor who played the butcher's boy Mycah, was not actually killed either, though oddly, no one seems quite so upset about him).

[Toke]

I've read the entire series and am really giddy about the fourth book, soon to hit store shelves btw.

The tv series thus far has stuck to the books like no other book-->tv/movie I've ever seen which is truly a nice change of pace.

[darthYENIK]

QUOTE (ajbns87 @ May 27 2011, 01:37)

QUOTE (darthYENIK @ May 27 2011, 07:21) QUOTE (Otter @ May 26 2011, 10:13) QUOTE (darthYENIK @ May 23 2011, 00:51) Just watched episode 6 and then 7 on HBO Go.  sh*t's getting good. I was surprised and saddened to see King Robert die.  I was looking forward to more from Addy. How did you see that? That hasn't happened yet.... I thought the Viserys scene was done incredibly well. Although that gold melted awfully fast! I know Joff looks a lot like a weasel, but he was kinda cute in the scene with him ...lying... to Sansa. It's on HBOgo. There is a mobile app, and a website. Not sure if it's available up north. It's actually pretty damn cool. You can watch every episode of pretty much every HBO show of the past decade. Including the Sopranos, Band of Brothers, and True Blood. On top of this they have movies and those late night movies you don't want your mother to see. As for missing two weeks. I watched episode 7 on my phone, and still wish to watch it on a big HD TV. really need a HD tv... got to get one this summer, any suggestions ? sorry a little off topic.... any one read the books here?

Higher contrast ratios are good and make sure it can handle 1080p. To me the rest is preference.

As for the sexuality, and language. That first episode is probably the most sexually charged, after that there is maybe one sex scene, at best per episode. The language, especially the word "f*ck", is shocking at first, but you get used to it.

[ajbns87]

I appreciate all the sex scenes to be honest, not too keen on the homo one but whatever floats your boat....

I forget a lot of americans dont like hearing curse words , its a good thing.

[darthYENIK]

It's not that I don't like hearing curse words, it's just a bit weird to hear them said by the cast of a fantasy TV show. We're used to all of our f*cking and potty mouth in more modern settings.

[jelly]

While the language of medieval times was different from our own, conversations didn't sound like Shakespeare plays. Bantering, swearing and drunkenness has always been around, even if one can't picture Legolas and Aragorn in those situations.

[Kirsty]

Never heard of the books until I saw the show. I'm really enjoying it so far so may pick up the books soon. Every episode holds a little shock, so many secrets and schemes it's surprising me every week! I'm very intrigued to see the development of Daenerys after the dragon egg didn't burn her last week . I don't think I've ever loved to hate so many characters in a show! Blondie brother and sister especially. I would like to see more of the dire wolves too.

[meta187]

Really enjoying this as well, may pick up the books as a result. A decidedly adult take on the fantasy adventure type show so far.

[jelly]

QUOTE (MissCloud @ May 28 2011, 02:05)

I would like to see more of the dire wolves too.

Yeah, there's disappointingly little wolf in the show. The book has them in a lot more scenes, like for instance last episode when Bran was attacked by wildlings and Night's Watch deserters, he was saved by his own and Robb's direwolf before Robb and Theon could get there. I suppose training the dogs turned out harder than they thought, or something. It'll only get worse as the wolves grow according to the story, to the size of their mother seen in the first episode..



CGI? Got a feeling that won't look good at ALL.

[Fnorg]

QUOTE (darthYENIK @ May 27 2011, 23:34)

It's not that I don't like hearing curse words, it's just a bit weird to hear them said by the cast of a fantasy TV show.  We're used to all of our f*cking and potty mouth in more modern settings.

Heh, Deadwood had a similar problem back in the day. The pilot used authentic, religiously colored cursing from the late 1800s and that caused test audiences to piss themselves laughing. So Milch did a 180 and threw in as much modern cursing as he could think of. What happened then was that TV audiences felt it was unauthentic that people swore so much, and that they used modern curse words. There's just no pleasing everyone. People swear, and always have - just in different ways.

For me the latter works better. A character calling another a "marauding scalawag" lacks the impact of "f*cking motherf*cker".

[Pandazoot]

Just a quick question for those of you that have read the books. Does the second book take place immediately after the end of the first book or is there a fairly big gap between them? I ask because I wonder about the possibility of Daenerys' child (Rhaego I believe?) becoming a prominent character in later seasons...

[Toke]

QUOTE (Pandazoot @ May 28 2011, 05:43)

Just a quick question for those of you that have read the books. Does the second book take place immediately after the end of the first book or is there a fairly big gap between them? I ask because I wonder about the possibility of Daenerys' child (Rhaego I believe?) becoming a prominent character in later seasons...

Yes the second book takes place right after the first. And as a consequence Rhaego is still a wee babe while his ma is off whooping ass in foreign lands.

[darthYENIK]

QUOTE (Gronf @ May 28 2011, 03:37)

QUOTE (darthYENIK @ May 27 2011, 23:34) It's not that I don't like hearing curse words, it's just a bit weird to hear them said by the cast of a fantasy TV show.  We're used to all of our f*cking and potty mouth in more modern settings. Heh, Deadwood had a similar problem back in the day. The pilot used authentic, religiously colored cursing from the late 1800s and that caused test audiences to piss themselves laughing. So Milch did a 180 and threw in as much modern cursing as he could think of. What happened then was that TV audiences felt it was unauthentic that people swore so much, and that they used modern curse words. There's just no pleasing everyone. People swear, and always have - just in different ways. For me the latter works better. A character calling another a "marauding scalawag" lacks the impact of "f*cking motherf*cker".

Let me straighten this out, I'm not saying that I don't like it, or that I don't accept it, or that I don't think it belongs. I was just caught off guard by it. But was quickly used to it.

[jelly]

Low point of episode 7: Gratuitous porn. If I want porn, I'll download porn. They cut a bunch of story from the Wall to fit in this scene (that wasn't even in the book). With 'Roz' to boot, who wasn't in the book either. Some of the extra scenes they create add to the story, but this is just stupid. There's so many characters in this story that they had no need to create more, especially not a prostitute whose sole task is to fill the HBO skin quota.

High point: Not sure frankly, I loved all the rest of it! I like Charles Dance as Lord Tywin. Nice touch to have him dress a dead stag in the same episode Robert dies and is replaced by Cersei's little incestuous devilspawn.

I like how Jason Momoa and Emilia Clarke make a made-up language sound so much like an actual language. Well, they and all the rest of them. Jorah and the whip-wielding bodyguard guy rule.

[Toke]

QUOTE (jelly @ May 30 2011, 03:29)

There's so many characters in this story that they had no need to create more, especially not a prostitute whose sole task is to fill the HBO skin quota.

I believe this is the hooker that plays a somewhat significant role with Tyrion later on in the series when sh*t REALLY hits the fan at the end of the second book. Could be wrong. But ya the whole lesbian scene was not totally needed beyond showing the audience what really is going on in Littlefinger's head.

[jelly]

QUOTE (Toke @ May 30 2011, 15:56)

QUOTE (jelly @ May 30 2011, 03:29) There's so many characters in this story that they had no need to create more, especially not a prostitute whose sole task is to fill the HBO skin quota. I believe this is the hooker that plays a somewhat significant role with Tyrion later on in the series when sh*t REALLY hits the fan at the end of the second book. Could be wrong. But ya the whole lesbian scene was not totally needed beyond showing the audience what really is going on in Littlefinger's head.

No, that's Shae (from the books), and Shae has already been cast, so I can't see them replacing her with Roz. That'd be changing things merely for the sake of change, and turn the series into some kind of ultra-expensive fan fiction.

Sure, the scene may have been necessary to clarify who Littlefinger is, but it was too long.