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 [REL|CON] Bell412

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chasez  
Posted: Saturday, May 7 2011, 11:01
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QUOTE (SkylineGTRFreak @ May 7 2011, 10:51)
eeeeh, whatever xD

http://www.gtainside.com/download.php?do=c...start=&id=35587

And? I don't care that you have converted the same model. I started this conversion very long time ago and I'm not gonna stop working on it.

btw why did you even bother posting the link? try my version and you won't use your version anymore biggrin.gif lol
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its not even my version, i mean i havent made it for IV, i just posted the link to show you theres already the mod, besides the one i posted has a lot of bugs
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Posted: Saturday, May 7 2011, 11:09
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QUOTE (SkylineGTRFreak @ May 7 2011, 11:04)
its not even my version, i mean i havent made it for IV, i just posted the link to show you theres already the mod, besides the one i posted has a lot of bugs

I know that there is a similar mod but you gotta admit mine is closer to the real thing smile.gif
this video proves that I had started this mod quite a while ago
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heyheyhey, i didnt even said that the version i posted is better, i mean, i like yours more cuase it has additional parts and isnt a plain conversion xD but i would like to see the AW119 Koala also, though i cant find a model to make it confused.gif
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QUOTE (SkylineGTRFreak @ May 7 2011, 12:00)
heyheyhey, i didnt even said that the version i posted is better, i mean, i like yours more cuase it has additional parts and isnt a plain conversion xD but i would like to see the AW119 Koala also, though i cant find a model to make it confused.gif

Yeah, I searched for it too but no success, so I made it out of Swift biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (chasez @ May 7 2011, 13:02)
QUOTE (SkylineGTRFreak @ May 7 2011, 12:00)
heyheyhey, i didnt even said that the version i posted is better, i mean, i like yours more cuase it has additional parts and isnt a plain conversion xD but i would like to see the AW119 Koala also, though i cant find a model to make it confused.gif

Yeah, I searched for it too but no success, so I made it out of Swift biggrin.gif

http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae177/c...eli/EFLC055.png

well, that looks actually very good^^
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Posted: Saturday, May 7 2011, 14:15
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QUOTE (chasez @ May 7 2011, 09:30)
Higher resolution textures will be available in the final release.

Then I'm relieved now biggrin.gif

I almost forgot about that swift chopper. Was it still a WIP?
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QUOTE (JJJ8 @ May 7 2011, 14:15)
QUOTE (chasez @ May 7 2011, 09:30)
Higher resolution textures will be available in the final release.

Then I'm relieved now biggrin.gif

I almost forgot about that swift chopper. Was it still a WIP?

I just don't think it's worth working with it. As an original swift it looks really good but after I chopped off some parts it looks like a peace of crap. Maybe the Bell412 skids could make it sexier, I'll try to add them biggrin.gif lol
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QUOTE (chasez @ May 8 2011, 10:07)
I just don't think it's worth working with it. As an original swift it looks really good but after I chopped off some parts it looks like a peace of crap. Maybe the Bell412 skids could make it sexier, I'll try to add them biggrin.gif lol

I do have to agree with that "not worthy" part. Atleast for a police helicopter, the Bell is a hundred times sexier.
It might be a good use by ripping off the useless rear doors off and send them into Higgins heli tours lol.gif

Yea, to be honest, those default skids doesn't look nice on this one, but maybe Bell412 skids are not a good choice too...
This helicopter is meant to be on tires, for my opinion.
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I've testet your chopper. Nice work as always! only some things I would think you could change:

1. The pilot is not shootable from the side
2. I think you should make the searchlight not with only a lightmap. I think that a real searchlight could be nice (Just take a headlight from a motor bike, delete everything but the inside and the glass (with dummie) and put it to the original position... so the light will work as a cars headlight and can illuminate things wink.gif )
3. Does the FLIR - Pod realy has a light? I don't think so... If it has, It would be a infrared - light and not a visible one wink.gif Also I think that the navigation lights should stay steady... (Lightmap?) and don't have to blink (you could delete the dummies...)

Remember: These are only comments on your beta and I don't wan't to piss you off. So don't flame me for some critique smile.gif
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Posted: Sunday, May 8 2011, 19:50
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Yea cant shoot pilot from side, but I couldnt shoot him from the front either, granted u dont get that angle usually except in pursuit since he always wants to turn to the side.
As for those lights, now lookin even closer myself @ the vid i posted, there is a red one on the bottom that flashes like the red one on top, the rest are steady on but there is one more that flashes blue/white that is not on your model chasez, its over the exhausts,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqztnJ8lUag&feature=related
Also u notice the 2 white running lights on the underside of the tail
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I got an Idea... you could use the EPM Mod by treepwood to open and close the big slidedoors... wink.gif If the Helicopter moves fast, the doors are closed. When the helicopter is slow, the'll open. What about this idea?
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QUOTE ([Delta ēk5)
,May 8 2011, 18:53] I've testet your chopper. Nice work as always! only some things I would think you could change:

1. The pilot is not shootable from the side
2. I think you should make the searchlight not with only a lightmap. I think that a real searchlight could be nice (Just take a headlight from a motor bike, delete everything but the inside and the glass (with dummie) and put it to the original position... so the light will work as a cars headlight and can illuminate things wink.gif )
3. Does the FLIR - Pod realy has a light? I don't think so... If it has, It would be a infrared - light and not a visible one wink.gif Also I think that the navigation lights should stay steady... (Lightmap?) and don't have to blink (you could delete the dummies...)

Remember: These are only comments on your beta and I don't wan't to piss you off. So don't flame me for some critique smile.gif


have you seen the searchlight on v1.1 at night?

headlights doesn't work on IV helis. No headlights, indicators or tail lights. Just 4 siren/blinking lights.

rear doors already use "extra" title, maybe EPM already works.

FLIR has light only in v1.1 because it shares the same material as searchlight, it's already been fixed.

I'll make you all happy and make sure you can shoot the pilot smile.gif


I thank you all for your support, suggestions and help. I'm trying to do my best and in the limits of the game. I can surely try to make it as real as I can but not all of that can be done, unfortunately.

keep the suggestions comming smile.gif

@Costar

Some of the lights are added and fixed current ones smile.gif

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Yea we know smile.gif its not so significant but wondered if the glass on the bottom front will be shootable too ?

I am guessing u will keep the doors open permanently like other GTA helis ? IMO it kinda makes good enough sense because they're all open and this is a pol chopper that will have cops sittin out the sides shooting.
I'm just still wondering why like in my earlier pic, why psgrs still get in like this
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See the one behind Luis is sittin in the seat properly but the other dude is sittin half in/out like a shooter.. Both sides w/ dual seats in the back look the same so just wondered ..
k, i got the cops after us, and I noticed that my guards pretty much do the same thing in any other chopper, front psgr opens his door to shoot and 2 rear psgrs will shoot well basically through the doors, but they do sit actually inside the regular maverick as opposed to one in, the other half out..

BTW, the pilot needs a an actual *stick* to ctrl this thing not that imaginary one tounge.gif
I also noticed, not that its an *issue* but the spotlight stays on at night (apparently it comes on @ night even if u dint get in it) when u get out of the heli, or is that like new cars headlights, they stay on for a time to light your path to the house biggrin.gif

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you see the texture? its transparent... <.<
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QUOTE (Eiswolfi @ May 9 2011, 14:16)
you see the texture? its transparent... <.<

Well, that means that it's in motion biggrin.gif they're not transparent when they're steady.
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QUOTE (chasez @ May 9 2011, 01:05)
headlights doesn't work on IV helis.

I may have to correct this statement wink.gif

Do you remember the "Sparrow Hilator" made by smokey8808? It has working "headlights" at the front

go on and test it by yourself wink.gif http://www.gtainside.com/download.php?do=c...=25030&orderBy=

I also hadn't think that this would be possible, but it shows, that it can be. If you use this chopper ingame, you could press "L" and the Headlight will illuminate people, buildings and everything like the normal car's headlight... I think it's better than just a self-illuminating texture, isn't it? wink.gif

By the way, I could hand out you some source files I partly converted from open sourcefiles of some FS2004 Helicopters to you if you are interested... I would work on them by myself, but real life is hard atm.

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QUOTE (chasez @ May 9 2011, 14:20)
QUOTE (Eiswolfi @ May 9 2011, 14:16)
you see the texture? its transparent... <.<

Well, that means that it's in motion biggrin.gif they're not transparent when they're steady.

they are transparent ... i make this screen while the engine was turned off and all stand still...
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