[ShakingASS]

QUOTE (3Doomer @ Friday, Apr 13 2012, 09:27)

Hmm...try to reinstall GIMS IV.

Ugh it's clean install of GIMS i will reinstall again hope this will fix it i don't see how it could mess up.

[terreur69]

@ doomer

I have a probleme with water.dat , the games crash , i do not know why, there may be an error in the export of water.dat .

[3Doomer]

There's no errors in water.dat - game crashes by unknown reason. May be, it's needed to change the shorelines too...

[Meathelix]

I have a question I get this error when trying to export "No Objects found in the "dev_map/island/base/objs" Section dummy!" How do I fix this?

[Blaster_nl]

Doom,

You have any idea what the 'vnod' section is in IPL files? (common\data\maps)

[3Doomer]

AFAIK, it's read by the game(vnod+link sections) as paths, but no further information...

[oinkoink]

QUOTE (terreur69 @ Friday, Apr 13 2012, 13:20)

@ doomer I have a probleme with water.dat ,  the games crash , i do not know why, there may be an error in the export of water.dat .

QUOTE (3Doomer @ Friday, Apr 13 2012, 18:22)

There's no errors in water.dat - game crashes by unknown reason. May be, it's needed to change the shorelines too...

AFAIK the water.dat file doesn't changed that much since day one.

QUOTE (steve-m @ Monday, Aug 22 2005, 20:27)

Very important note: All X and Y coordinates of corner points must be even, rounded numbers (like 1234.0), otherwise the game will crash when you approach the water.

Source: [SA|DOC] water.dat

3.0 = Bad
2.0 = Good

6.2 = Bad
6.0 = Good

[3Doomer]

Hmm...i've thought that one day I've noticed a line like *3.2 in the coordinates, so I haven't rounded them at all...will be fixed.

[Limiter]

QUOTE (oinkoink @ Sunday, Apr 15 2012, 20:41)

QUOTE (terreur69 @ Friday, Apr 13 2012, 13:20) @ doomer I have a probleme with water.dat ,  the games crash , i do not know why, there may be an error in the export of water.dat . QUOTE (3Doomer @ Friday, Apr 13 2012, 18:22) There's no errors in water.dat - game crashes by unknown reason. May be, it's needed to change the shorelines too... AFAIK the water.dat file doesn't changed that much since day one. QUOTE (steve-m @ Monday, Aug 22 2005, 20:27) Very important note: All X and Y coordinates of corner points must be even, rounded numbers (like 1234.0), otherwise the game will crash when you approach the water. Source: [SA|DOC] water.dat 3.0 = Bad 2.0 = Good 6.2 = Bad 6.0 = Good

Thank you for this, I will try it someday when I have time.

Someone should have said this when I posted about water.dat crashing my game earlier in the GIMS thread.

I was also about to PM terreur69 since I saw he has a swimming pool working in Gostown. But it may appear his crashes as well.

EDIT: I tried it and it works!! Now the pool does not crash and Niko can swim in it instead of walking on the bottom of the pool.

This post has been edited by Limiter on Sunday, Apr 15 2012, 23:45

[Blaster_nl]

Speaking of water.dat, is there a way to make water above you, and not getting pulled up by the water when you are beneath it? (you will swim up in the sky, it looks really silly.)

[GTARandom]

Doubtfull, i think's part of a physics engine Euphoria, and we can't access this data

[Frank.s]

IV's water.dat is identical to SA's right? Even down to the even, rounded numbers bug/feature.
So, surely using the Shallow setting would allow the player to be under the water without rising upward? (this is possible, i've done it in SA)
SA's shallow water setting affects between 5 and 10 units downward until it gets disabled.

[Limiter]

QUOTE (Blaster_nl @ Monday, Apr 16 2012, 21:05)

Speaking of water.dat, is there a way to make water above you, and not getting pulled up by the water when you are beneath it? (you will swim up in the sky, it looks really silly.)

Yes, a very silly way to do this though, I am not sure it works for every situation.

Put a plane of water under the ground you want your character to stand on, now place a water plane in the sky ABOVE that water plane and the bottom one will negate the floating effect of the one above it.

Remember my PM a few months back? I had this problem.

[GTARandom]

QUOTE (3Doomer @ Sunday, Apr 15 2012, 20:22)

AFAIK, it's read by the game(vnod+link sections) as paths, but no further information...

what does NOD even stand for, knowing this may help us further on?!

I mean e.g WDR, Windows Drawable Dictionary

D again must be dictionary..

i guess Node O(something) dictionary
or is it a knockoff from SA where it just means NODES

[Frank.s]

I'm guessing it means Vertex Node because the path nodes are connected by points, aka vertexes. Actually, nodes ARE the points, so disregard my guess.

[GTARandom]

You know the TUNE files as openformat for WFT? VNOD may be the open format for NOD or something, not sure

For some reason Rockstar duplicates some data for no reason, like some WTD in pc/textures and half the data isn't used anyway

[lpgunit]

QUOTE (GTARandom @ Monday, Apr 16 2012, 21:44)

For some reason Rockstar duplicates some data for no reason, like some WTD in pc/textures and half the data isn't used anyway.

Which probably explains the rather bloated footprint compared to the 6-something GB that the X360 version took up. Although since the latter used lower-def textures it might have been another factor.

[GooD-NTS]

QUOTE (GTARandom @ Tuesday, Apr 17 2012, 01:14)

Doubtfull, i think's part of a physics engine Euphoria, and we can't access this data

Euphoria is not physics engine. Euphoria is dynamic animation/behavior engine.
In GTA IV version RAGE uses Bullet as physics engine (http://bulletphysics.org/).

QUOTE (GTARandom)

For some reason Rockstar duplicates some data for no reason, like some WTD in pc/textures and half the data isn't used anyway

They just not delete this data from build folder, here is no any other reasons.

[quechus13]

The Weapon Export is still wrong.


When I put my weapon exactly in the same place GIMS or Open IV (don't know which one is the issue) moves it to another place.


I even tried importing and exporting a IV weapon and it happens too.

is there a fix?

[3Doomer]

I'llcheck...