Wii U console won't support DVD and Blu-Ray Disc Source
No big deal. I have a DVD and Blu Ray player. Never have I used my Wii to watch DVDs.
Exactly what it says in the statement, that everyone already has a DVD/Blu-ray player, so to keep prices down they have took that function out. Sounds good to me.
I apologise for the massive bump, but it saves making a duplicate topic that will hardly get any replies. I've seen many rumours circulating the net at the minute that state the Wii U is already failing to live up to all expectations, and sifting through all of this crap is quite tedious, so was wondering if anyone could provide some good, worthy information on the new system? I'm on a slow connection at the minute so can't be trawling through lots and lots of sites, but anyone care to summarise the latest news?
Always been a big fan of Nintendo, up until the Wii, but only because it seemed to forget about the gamers who wanted some actual games, rather than concentrating on the gimmick. Nowadays, people attack Nintendo and think it's cool to hate on it, but don't ever get it into thei heads that it wasn't Nintendo that failed, but instead it was the 3rd part support that let them down. Nintendo failed in the sense that it became too worried about offending people in terms of violent games and whatnot, and hopefully they learn from this mistake with their next console.
I'm not after some hardcore, violent games on the next system, but want to see them produce a console that can handle high-graphic games. Ever since I saw a rendered image of Zelda on the Wii U portable device, it got me all hyped up, but I'm worried that this was just a load of crap to get us all worked up.
Nintendo have some top quality titles, and these titles deserve a console that can push them further. Imagine a highly-detailed Mario game, or Zelda game, the way they should be? Imagine having all the old classics revamped and brought out in HD packs, such as the full Mario collection etc?
Just hope they realise that being 'friendly' is what's their major downfall at the minute.
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Just a suggestion, but maybe this could be changed into the official Nintendo topic?
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What'll be most important to anyone here is whether Rockstar will support it, I've little interest other then what Rockstar might propose for the system, and even then, I may sit on the sidelines
What'll be most important to anyone here is whether Rockstar will support it, I've little interest other then what Rockstar might propose for the system, and even then, I may sit on the sidelines
If Nintendo sort all this bullsh*t out about not wanting to offend families, then I don't see why Rockstar wouldn't release their titles on the Wii U. Even if it doesn't get GTA, I'm sure they'd still offer them some other titles. It would be stupid not to.
i honestly wont be getting the WII U if it gets poor ports/ horrible controls/ horrible games/ slow specs the upcoming xbox and playstation is supposed to be announced this yr or nxt yr and nintendo, stop with your wiimote bullsh*t. if i wanted wiimote, i would have just gotten the kinect and psmove which to me are 2 horrible add ons tbh
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QUOTE (Slamman @ Friday, Apr 20 2012, 19:58)
I wonder how well Wii U will do in the used market?!? That should be rather interesting, if it shows up in Goodwill thrift stores at some point?!?
Well at least there's a chance it will a. be even more affordable and b. still be working, compared to the game of chance you used to play when you bought a used Xbox 360 .
I still plan to get one of these things when they come out. I've enjoyed my Xbox 360, but I'm tired of the crap that has come along with it. Bland FPS games dominating the market, ads everywhere on my console, nickle-and-diming through pointless DLC, etc. And even if I buy a Wii U at launch I'm sure it will be cheaper than the Xbox 720 and PS4 (speculative names of course) at launch. And if the rumors about the "serious business" next gen systems are true, with no optical drives and/or the inability to play used games, screw that, I'm hopping off the train.
I've had a GameCube, GBA SP and Nintendo DS (all years after their release), but I never had many games for them. I'll change that this generation and fully embrace Nintendo. Maybe I'll realize I should have been a Nintendo kid all along .
Just to clarify, didn't the Wii use an SD card slot for storing games and save files and the like? Perhaps the Wii U will keep this, but allow for USB drives or at least an SDXC slot. (just read the opening post. USB hard drives is awesome!)
edit- and another thing I love about the Wii U so far is its size! It looks to be even smaller than the Wii doesn't it? I'd say it's about 25% bigger than the controller! And if the original Xbox 360 and PS3 are anything to go by, the new Xbox and PlayStation will end up being more huge power-drawing systems.
This post has been edited by mincemate003 on Saturday, Apr 21 2012, 15:24
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QUOTE (junkie2115 @ Thursday, Apr 14 2011, 17:18)
Nintendo might be ahead in the console wars once again?
I wouldn't say they're ahead of anything.
The Wii, should have been a last gen console. It would have "competed" much better with the Xbox/PS2 generation. The Wii U, should have been released in the same window as the Xbox360/PS3.
But that's not how it went. Now, Nintendo is releasing a console that is a little more powerful than the 360, to compete with Nextbox/PS4...
I'm still going to buy the damned thing. But, Nintendo consoles are only good for First Party games IMO.
Now, Nintendo is releasing a console that is a little more powerful than the 360, to compete with Nextbox/PS4...
Which, for the time being, is all purely speculative rumours that are flying around the web from various developers and whatnot. Nintendo claim one thing, they claim different...it's up to you on who you want to listen to pre-release, but at the end of the day, we won't know until the final product is ready.
I'm buying one just for the next-gen Zelda, but only if they go back to TP graphics, and not this cartoony sh*t. I enjoyed the cel-shading of WW, but SS looks absolutely terrible.
Double post, sorry, but it's E3 time so I'm bumping this topic to see what all you lot are thinking of the new console so far.
First of all, there was the news of a new Mario game, which is hardly a surprise TBH. Wasn't exactly the Mario game I was after, since they've done these 2D scrolling Mario games to death now on the Wii, but it could prove to be a great game. It's all about the gameplay at the end of the day.
Here's a video showing all this whole new MiiVerse off. I guess most of you will know what this whole thing is about now, so will save copying and pasting information, but it's basically showing that Nintendo seem to have the whole internet/connection thing sorted out now, rather than that whole stupid friend codes thing. It looks like it could be rather useful in regards to gaming and whatnot, but I need some more information before I comment further.
Oh, and they have finally revealed the new controller that will be out for all those hardcore gamers. Wise move, Nintendo.
Can't wait for the conference...
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Nintendo has shown off 23 of the first games to be launched on its upcoming Wii U console.
Several - including a Batman spin-off and a violent zombie-themed title - are designed to appeal to "hardcore gamers" who have traditionally opted for other games machines.
The firm also revealed that the device would be able to support two of its touchscreen game pads at the same time.
However, it did not set a launch date beyond referring to "the holidays".
The period usually refers to the months of November and December in the US. The firm had previously said the machine would be released in Europe, Australia, the US and Japan before Christmas.
Details of the console and controllers' costs were also left undiscussed at the presentation held at the E3 games trade show in Los Angeles.
Serious gamers
The Wii U will be the first of the next generation of games machines to launch. Sony and Microsoft have yet to reveal details of their plans.
News that the tiltes - including Batman Arkham City: Armored Edition; Aliens: Colonial Marines; Assassin's Creed 3 and ZombiU - are under development for Nintendo's machine may help extend its appeal.
Ubisoft's ZombiU is an exclusive title for the Wii U and is targeted at so-called mature gamers "The criticism of the Wii U had been that it didn't address serious gamers who are looking for complex, graphics-heavy titles," said Bridget Carey, senior editor of the tech site Cnet.
"So they are coming out with all these titles. Many of them are already around on other consoles, so it's not going to wow many people.
"But this is Nintendo saying we're there for every type of gamer, not just family fun - which is their biggest strength."
Mario returns
Announced titles targeting the casual gaming market included New Mario Bros U, Pimkin 3 and Scribblenauts Unlimited.
Nintendo Land will also feature several of the firm's existing characters in mini-games and is intended to help introduce users to the concept of the new Wii U Game Pad controllers.
The game pads feature a touchscreen which Nintendo claimed would help "revolutionise" gaming.
Examples of its uses included allowing a player to check their inventory while the action continued on the main screen, setting off explosives by tapping on the appropriate part of the handset's image, and playing games on the small screen when other family members wanted to use the TV.
Nintendo highlighted how comments from gamers' friends could be shown during gameplay Nintendo also promoted the integration of its Miiverse social network, allowing a user's friends to pass on tips or boast of their recent scores while play continued.
Winter rush:
Nintendo's shares dropped last year after it first announced the Wii U, and in April it declared an annual net loss of 43.2bn yen ($533m; £329m).
One analyst attending E3 said there were still unanswered questions that could determine if the firm would turn its fortunes around.
"They are really focusing on the game content, but the question is when these games and the console itself will be released," said Brian Blau, research director at the technology consultants Gartner.
"They need to come out some time in advance of Christmas to have an impact. If they come late in the buying cycle I'm slightly worried for their overall success."
Size •Approximately 1.8 inches high, 10.5 inches deep and 6.8 inches long.
Appearance •The new console features a compact design that will make it a natural addition to any home entertainment setup.
Weight •Approximately 3.41 pounds (1.5 kg).
CPU •IBM PowerⓇ-based multi-core processor.
GPU •AMD Radeon-based High Definition GPU.
Storage •Wii U uses an internal flash memory. It also supports SD memory cards and external USB storage.
Media •Wii U and Wii optical discs.
Networking •Wii U can access the Internet via wireless (IEEE 802.11b/g/n) connection. The console features four USB 2.0 connectors - two in the front and two in the rear - that support Wii LAN Adapters.
Wii Compatibility •Nearly all Wii software and accessories can be used with Wii U.
Audio Output Uses six-channel PCM linear output via HDMI connector, or analog output via the AV Multi Out connector.
Wii U GamePad •The Wii U GamePad controller removes the traditional barriers between games, players and the TV by creating a second window into the video game world. It incorporates a 6.2-inch, 16:9 aspect ratio LCD touch screen, as well as traditional button controls and two analog sticks. Inputs include a +Control Pad, L/R sticks, L/R stick buttons, A/B/X/Y buttons, L/R buttons, ZL/ZR buttons, Power button, HOME button, -/SELECT button, +/START button, and TV CONTROL button. The GamePad also includes motion control (powered by an accelerometer, gyroscope and geomagnetic sensor), a front-facing camera, a microphone, stereo speakers, rumble features, a sensor bar, an included stylus and support for Near Field Communication (NFC) functionality. It is powered by a rechargeable lithium-ion battery and weighs approximately 1.1 pounds (500 g).
Other Controllers •The Wii U console is capable of supporting two Wii U GamePad controllers, up to four Wii Remote (or Wii Remote Plus) controllers or Wii U Pro Controllers, and Wii accessories such as the Nunchuk, Classic Controller and Wii Balance Board.
Video Output •Supports 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i. Compatible cables include HDMI, Wii D-Terminal, Wii Component Video, Wii RGB, Wii S-Video Stereo AV and Wii AV.
Wii U Features •In addition to introducing new ways to play, Wii U also offers users a variety of non-gaming features to enhance the overall experience.
Miiverse
Miiverse is a brand-new network communication system that lets gamers from around the world share experiences, discuss games and discover new content. Using their personalized Mii character, players enter Miiverse and see games, applications or entertainment content that either they have interacted with recently, expressed interest in learning more about or that their friends are using or discussing. From here they can challenge their friends to play together, ask a question about a difficult level or discover new elements of their favorite games they never knew existed. After a notable achievement or other share-worthy moment, players can pause their game or application and seamlessly post messages to the Miiverse community.
TV Remote: The Wii U GamePad controller may also function as an infrared TV remote, whether users are watching TV or playing a game.
Near Field Communication (NFC)
The Wii U GamePad has the ability to communicate wirelessly with objects that are held above it. This allows for a variety of interesting new possibilities for games and activities.
Nintendo eShop: The digital storefront for Wii U will be available at launch and offer a variety of content for people to download and enjoy. Consumers will also be able to purchase and download select games that are also available at retail stores.
Video Entertainment
Nintendo is working with Netflix, Hulu Plus, Amazon Instant Video, and YouTube to bring video experiences to Wii U that will take advantage of the integrated second-screen experience. Additional details will be released at a later time.
Video Chat
Using the built-in camera of the Wii U GamePad, people can communicate with other Wii U owners in real time.
Internet Browser
Wii U comes with a browser that lets people with a wireless Internet connection surf the Internet from the comfort of their couches.
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Confirmed Launch Games
Nintendo and other publishers haven't been real clear with which announced games will be available at launch. This short list below is of the games confirmed for launch. ■Darksiders 2 ■ZombiU ■Ninja Gaiden III: Razor's Edge
Announced Retail Games
■Aliens: Colonial Marines (Sega) ■Assassin's Creed III (Ubisoft) ■Avengers: Battle for Earth (Ubisoft) ■Batman Arkham City (Warner Bros.) ■Darksiders 2 (THQ) ■Dirt for Wii U ■Dragon Quest X ■F1 for Wii U (Source Developer)\ ■FIFA '13 (EA) ■Ghost Recon Online ■ZombiU ■LEGO City Stories ■Ninja Gaiden III: Razor's Edge ■NBA 2K13 ■Rayman Raving Rabbids ■Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs (Source Developer) ■Super Smash Bros. "Next" ■Tekken ■Pikmin 3 ■Project Cars (Source Developer) ■Medal of Honor: Warfighter(Electronic Arts) ■Devil's Third(THQ) ■NBA Live 13(Electronc Arts) ■Homefront 2 (THQ) ■Raman Legends (source) ■Injustice: Gods Among Us ■New Super Mario Bros. Wii U ■Nintendo Land
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Thanks for the updates to the topic, Butters. I'm really looking forward to the Wii U now. I even made my very first (and very crude ) userbar for my signature.
I do wish they had announced price or release date info at E3, but hopefully it will be from $200-300 (preferably $250) and be out something in mid November. I don't know if I'll have the cash for one, but hopefully I'll be able to get one this year. I am really liking that zombie game by Ubisoft.
QUOTE (mincemate003 @ Thursday, Jun 7 2012, 20:05)
Thanks for the updates to the topic, Butters. I'm really looking forward to the Wii U now. I even made my very first (and very crude ) userbar for my signature.
I do wish they had announced price or release date info at E3, but hopefully it will be from $200-300 (preferably $250) and be out something in mid November. I don't know if I'll have the cash for one, but hopefully I'll be able to get one this year. I am really liking that zombie game by Ubisoft.
The one good thing about Nintendo is that they never seem to have their new products at too high a price when they first arrive on the sheleves. As mentioned earlier in the topic, the DVD/Blu-Ray player was chosen to be left out on the Wii U, most likely due to keeping the price of the console down, plus the fact that 99% of people will already own something that plays a DVD anyway, so it's pointless including one within a games console, especially when they are all streaming content these days anyway. In terms of GBP, I'd estimate a price at around £200 on release, since those tablet controllers are looking to be about £40 each as well.
Not here to be negative, but I generally think Nintendo are making a huge mistake with WiiU. I really doubt any consumer was asking for a controller with a screen in it, and by every gameplay demonstration so far the controller looks tacked on and pointless. The first party games aren't remotely impressive (I still don't know why they sell on the Wii, anyway) and the third party games consist of games that have been on the market for months (Batman, Mass Effect etc).
The only game I'm slightly interested in is ZombiU, and that's based on the concept alone .
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QUOTE (Remix @ Thursday, Jun 7 2012, 21:51)
Not here to be negative, but I generally think Nintendo are making a huge mistake with WiiU. I really doubt any consumer was asking for a controller with a screen in it, and by every gameplay demonstration so far the controller looks tacked on and pointless. The first party games aren't remotely impressive (I still don't know why they sell on the Wii, anyway) and the third party games consist of games that have been on the market for months (Batman, Mass Effect etc).
The only game I'm slightly interested in is ZombiU, and that's based on the concept alone .
At least they're innovating though, right?
Well the way I see it is sorta like this: Back when the Wii came out, a lot of people thought that motion control was a tacked on addition and not really necessary. But the Wii ended up being the top selling console for the generation, and after a few years Microsoft and Sony end up bringing out their own motion control peripherals.
Now most "hardcore" gamers (playing entirely on Xbox, PS3 or PC) I have personally talked to about this will say something along these lines:
- Nintendo completely copied the idea of motion control from Microsoft, Sony, or _______________ - Microsoft and Sony had their motion control systems planned way before the Wii was even announced, and the success of the Wii had absolutely no influence on the Kinect or Move being made - The motion control on the Wii is a pointless gimmick, and the casual nature of the system has ruined the entire gaming industry
Now these are not views from any person I've seen on this forum, but people I've seen on other forums and just around the web in general. I personally believe (and I bet a lot of people who bought the Wii agree) that motion control may have been fishy at first for some people, but that it brought a new and innovate experience to gaming. Take my descriptions loosely here, just so I don't get some angry Nintendo-disliker writing a page full of insults about me). Regardless of what limitations motion control has, it worked for Nintendo, and apparently Microsoft and Sony thought it worked nice as well.
Everyone can put me on their hate list in the top spot, but I think it's safe to say that the Kinect and Move would not have 100% absolutely no doubt about it completely exactly similarly turned out in the exact same design, style, and overall product strategy had Nintendo not released their motion-controlled system. Motion control is something that worked, and I think Nintendo will be able to make motion+touch screen+whateverelsethatthingermajigerhasinit work for this generation. I'm not saying that the next generation of consoles will be filled with touch-screen tablet controllers at all; in fact I think Microsoft and Sony will both bring their own innovative and fun ideas to the market (assuming they don't just reuse the Kinect and Move). But I think that, if motion controls were able to work, touchscreen+gamepad controls will work as well.
Motion control is something that worked, and I think Nintendo will be able to make motion+touch screen+whateverelsethatthingermajigerhasinit work for this generation. I'm not saying that the next generation of consoles will be filled with touch-screen tablet controllers at all; in fact I think Microsoft and Sony will both bring their own innovative and fun ideas to the market (assuming they don't just reuse the Kinect and Move). But I think that, if motion controls were able to work, touchscreen+gamepad controls will work as well.
Yeah, and it's emphasised significantly with the new SmartGlass technology from Microsoft. I genuinely SmartGlass is a good concept - utilising something that consumers already have (smart phones and tablets), and using it as an optional extra for developers to use. The touchscreen for WiiU games is a necessity in order for the games to be good, and the developers will be forced to have it in their game design.
Is there a great example from E3 of how this new controller will enhance gameplay, at all?
I know there were doubts about motion control, but it clearly was successful in the long run (maybe not so much for Sony...). Touchscreen, however, has been around for years now; it's innovative but it's not necessary good for console gamers. I guess it'll be interesting to see when it launches later this year.
I don't know one single person, not one, that has played their Wii since the first year they got it. It's as good as a door stop now. That's called getting burned. Those people couldn't care less about the WiiU. Not trolling, just the truth.
Let's be honest, what they've shown of it is an embarrassment. The controller is pathetic and adds nothing to games. Microsoft have smart glass, which basically totally steals Nintendo's thunder. As little as I care about Kinnect, it's far more appealing than Nintendo's laughable attempt at motion control.
This post has been edited by John The Grudge on Friday, Jun 8 2012, 09:40
The touchscreen for WiiU games is a necessity in order for the games to be good, and the developers will be forced to have it in their game design.
But it's not though, since they have also revealed the official controller that will be available for the console. Now, I may be wrong here since I haven't read too much into this, but the fact that it states this controller was released for the more 'hardcore' gamers seems to suggest that there will be games that are released that have the touschscreen as an option only, like maybe it adds some enhancements to the game if you use the touschreen/tablet, but can still play the game normally without it.
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]That may not be suitable for all titles, though. Especially ones being ported from other consoles. For that, much like the Wii, the Wii U will have a Pro Controller
Yes, the Smart Glass is looking the better of the two at the moment, but from what I've seen, it's been showing off more stuff that hasn't been to do with gaming then it has. From the videos I've seen of it, it's been showing off what it can do within films, or streaming stuff, or on the dashboard etc. Yes, I am completely aware that it will also add stuff to games, such as bringing up maps or showing extra information that is needed, but that's just what the Tablet is doing on the Wii U. Nintendo showed off what their tablet can do within games, as should be done for something that's primarily made for games.
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