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QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Jan 30 2011, 15:20)
QUOTE (mati1501 @ Jan 30 2011, 13:33)
OK then. Here are some spoilers:
The story will start before GTA IV, the Platypus will arrive after the 6th mission. I might split the story into 2 parts (FRWM tounge.gif ). At first, Rami will still work with the Italians, the Lupisella family till the payoffs become too small. The Lupisellas have a different assassin Sonny Honorato. The database says he is deceased, although his notes and everything else doesnt say anything about his death. I may make him the antagonist.

*Grunts because of the similarity in the start to FRWM*

How about featuring Lenny Petrovic, though?

I will, since the story starts before IV. His death will be very important in the story.
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Just like in FRWM...

Anyway, I think the Faustin's should play a part too, especially the part where Lenny collaborates with them and buys their coke but not their pot.

Also how about a vague clue about Rami's past with the Italians?
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QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Jan 30 2011, 15:23)
Just like in FRWM...

Anyway, I think the Faustin's should play a part too, especially the part where Lenny collaborates with them and buys their coke but not their pot.

Also how about a vague clue about Rami's past with the Italians?

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I will think about Lenny. Rami still works with the Italians at the start.
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QUOTE (mati1501 @ Jan 30 2011, 15:28)
QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Jan 30 2011, 15:23)
Just like in FRWM...

Anyway, I think the Faustin's should play a part too, especially the part where Lenny collaborates with them and buys their coke but not their pot.

Also how about a vague clue about Rami's past with the Italians?

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I will think about Lenny. Rami still works with the Italians at the start.

The Fautins have been featured too heavilly, it would be better if we left them out here apart from a few mentiones now and then, The main two gangs to focus on should be the Petrovic's and the Lupisella's or whatever family he is working for, Messina's? Lupisellas! tounge.gif

Then like you said Petrovic is like "WTF man, why are they attacking me"

Maybe in the end Petrovic betrays you because he is recieving too much heat from the Italians and further more the Cops when war breaks out, so in the end maybe petrovic decides to meet up with the Lupisella's and backstabs you in the final mission???
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QUOTE (Sanjeem @ Jan 30 2011, 15:41)
QUOTE (mati1501 @ Jan 30 2011, 15:28)
QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Jan 30 2011, 15:23)
Just like in FRWM...

Anyway, I think the Faustin's should play a part too, especially the part where Lenny collaborates with them and buys their coke but not their pot.

Also how about a vague clue about Rami's past with the Italians?

tounge.gif

I will think about Lenny. Rami still works with the Italians at the start.

The Fautins have been featured too heavilly, it would be better if we left them out here apart from a few mentiones now and then, The main two gangs to focus on should be the Petrovic's and the Lupisella's or whatever family he is working for, Messina's? Lupisellas! tounge.gif

Then like you said Petrovic is like "WTF man, why are they attacking me"

Maybe in the end Petrovic betrays you because he is recieving too much heat from the Italians and further more the Cops when war breaks out, so in the end maybe petrovic decides to meet up with the Lupisella's and backstabs you in the final mission???

How the f*ck could the Faustins be left out?

They:

Stole a shipment of TVs which the Petrovics were protecting.
Killed Lenny Petrovic.
Blew up Kenny's garage in South Bohan.

The story starts before all this happens, so it has to be featured.
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QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Jan 30 2011, 15:48)
QUOTE (Sanjeem @ Jan 30 2011, 15:41)
QUOTE (mati1501 @ Jan 30 2011, 15:28)
QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Jan 30 2011, 15:23)
Just like in FRWM...

Anyway, I think the Faustin's should play a part too, especially the part where Lenny collaborates with them and buys their coke but not their pot.

Also how about a vague clue about Rami's past with the Italians?

tounge.gif

I will think about Lenny. Rami still works with the Italians at the start.

The Fautins have been featured too heavilly, it would be better if we left them out here apart from a few mentiones now and then, The main two gangs to focus on should be the Petrovic's and the Lupisella's or whatever family he is working for, Messina's? Lupisellas! tounge.gif

Then like you said Petrovic is like "WTF man, why are they attacking me"

Maybe in the end Petrovic betrays you because he is recieving too much heat from the Italians and further more the Cops when war breaks out, so in the end maybe petrovic decides to meet up with the Lupisella's and backstabs you in the final mission???

How the f*ck could the Faustins be left out?

They:

Stole a shipment of TVs which the Petrovics were protecting.
Killed Lenny Petrovic.
Blew up Kenny's garage in South Bohan.

The story starts before all this happens, so it has to be featured.

The first part of the story is about the Italian mafia, then the second part will be about the Petrovics which I believe will take place after those events.

Rami Yalon: "No women, no kids."
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QUOTE (Sanjeem @ Jan 30 2011, 15:41)
QUOTE (mati1501 @ Jan 30 2011, 15:28)
QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Jan 30 2011, 15:23)
Just like in FRWM...

Anyway, I think the Faustin's should play a part too, especially the part where Lenny collaborates with them and buys their coke but not their pot.

Also how about a vague clue about Rami's past with the Italians?

tounge.gif

I will think about Lenny. Rami still works with the Italians at the start.

The Fautins have been featured too heavilly, it would be better if we left them out here apart from a few mentiones now and then, The main two gangs to focus on should be the Petrovic's and the Lupisella's or whatever family he is working for, Messina's? Lupisellas! tounge.gif

Then like you said Petrovic is like "WTF man, why are they attacking me"

Maybe in the end Petrovic betrays you because he is recieving too much heat from the Italians and further more the Cops when war breaks out, so in the end maybe petrovic decides to meet up with the Lupisella's and backstabs you in the final mission???

I like your thinking. Petrovic will use Rami to kill many important Lupisella members so he can take over their businesses. On the end Petrovic proposes to stop the war and the Lupisellas say only if they get rid of Rami.
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QUOTE (akavari112 @ Jan 30 2011, 15:49)
QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Jan 30 2011, 15:48)
QUOTE (Sanjeem @ Jan 30 2011, 15:41)
QUOTE (mati1501 @ Jan 30 2011, 15:28)
QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Jan 30 2011, 15:23)
Just like in FRWM...

Anyway, I think the Faustin's should play a part too, especially the part where Lenny collaborates with them and buys their coke but not their pot.

Also how about a vague clue about Rami's past with the Italians?

tounge.gif

I will think about Lenny. Rami still works with the Italians at the start.

The Fautins have been featured too heavilly, it would be better if we left them out here apart from a few mentiones now and then, The main two gangs to focus on should be the Petrovic's and the Lupisella's or whatever family he is working for, Messina's? Lupisellas! tounge.gif

Then like you said Petrovic is like "WTF man, why are they attacking me"

Maybe in the end Petrovic betrays you because he is recieving too much heat from the Italians and further more the Cops when war breaks out, so in the end maybe petrovic decides to meet up with the Lupisella's and backstabs you in the final mission???

How the f*ck could the Faustins be left out?

They:

Stole a shipment of TVs which the Petrovics were protecting.
Killed Lenny Petrovic.
Blew up Kenny's garage in South Bohan.

The story starts before all this happens, so it has to be featured.

The first part of the story is about the Italian mafia, then the second part will be about the Petrovics which I believe will take place after those events.

Rami Yalon: "No women, no kids."

Exactly my point so the Faustins will have been long gone from that Era of gang warfare shall we say.
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QUOTE (Sanjeem @ Jan 30 2011, 15:51)
QUOTE (akavari112 @ Jan 30 2011, 15:49)
QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Jan 30 2011, 15:48)
QUOTE (Sanjeem @ Jan 30 2011, 15:41)
QUOTE (mati1501 @ Jan 30 2011, 15:28)
QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Jan 30 2011, 15:23)
Just like in FRWM...

Anyway, I think the Faustin's should play a part too, especially the part where Lenny collaborates with them and buys their coke but not their pot.

Also how about a vague clue about Rami's past with the Italians?

tounge.gif

I will think about Lenny. Rami still works with the Italians at the start.

The Fautins have been featured too heavilly, it would be better if we left them out here apart from a few mentiones now and then, The main two gangs to focus on should be the Petrovic's and the Lupisella's or whatever family he is working for, Messina's? Lupisellas! tounge.gif

Then like you said Petrovic is like "WTF man, why are they attacking me"

Maybe in the end Petrovic betrays you because he is recieving too much heat from the Italians and further more the Cops when war breaks out, so in the end maybe petrovic decides to meet up with the Lupisella's and backstabs you in the final mission???

How the f*ck could the Faustins be left out?

They:

Stole a shipment of TVs which the Petrovics were protecting.
Killed Lenny Petrovic.
Blew up Kenny's garage in South Bohan.

The story starts before all this happens, so it has to be featured.

The first part of the story is about the Italian mafia, then the second part will be about the Petrovics which I believe will take place after those events.

Rami Yalon: "No women, no kids."

Exactly my point so the Faustins will have been long gone from that Era of gang warfare shall we say.

Yep. Besides, Lolwut's story focuses more on the Faustins. Later in the storyline Dimitri will have a role but not the Faustins.

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Another thing i had in mind is that personally Rami probably takes a more kind hearted step towards the Russians rather than the Italians another reason why he might leave, like i had an interesting idea that in the game since most of these Italian thugs although themselves are bad people always are racist towards other ethnic groups you could have them calling Rami a "Yid/ Jew" somthing along those lines, or somthing like "Ohh, Raaammmiii up the aaass!" somthing like that coming from some mafia member would be funny.
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QUOTE (Sanjeem @ Jan 30 2011, 16:02)
Another thing i had in mind is that personally Rami probably takes a more kind hearted step towards the Russians rather than the Italians another reason why he might leave, like i had an interesting idea that in the game since most of these Italian thugs although themselves are bad people always are racist towards other ethnic groups you could have them calling Rami a "Yid/ Jew" somthing along those lines, or somthing like "Ohh, Raaammmiii up the aaass!" somthing like that coming from some mafia member would be funny.

Of course I include that. Why else would I add Rocco Pelossi to the characters? The Ancelottis have some business with the Lupisellas.


BTW should Johnny somehow be connected to Rami? He is Jewish too.

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Nah, just because Judaism originated from Israel and they have that in common doesn't mean they should even come across each other if you ask me. Can't wait for the Story.
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I added three new character profiles along with the random character list.
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This look's good man, how many missions will this have?
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Interesting choice of protagonist man.. you're gonna have to work really hard to make this work well. I look forward to seeing what you are going to come up with for this though.

Why did you use a Mafia model for Rami though.. I wouldn't have pictured him like that at all.. he looks like some form of a european but not an Isreali. I'm not downing the whole idea but it just doesn't fit that well for me if I'm being honest (which I'm sure you would prefer me to be). The topic in general is well laid out though so props for that at least. icon14.gif

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@LuisBellic: Thanks. I plan 40 missions.

@MOB: Leave the prejudices away tounge.gif . Just kiddin'
I think Rami looks good as he is.
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QUOTE (mati1501 @ Jan 30 2011, 19:38)
@LuisBellic: Thanks. I plan 40 missions.

@MOB: Leave the prejudices away tounge.gif . Just kiddin'
I think Rami looks good as he is.

I only just now realised that some Israelis are Jewish biggrin.gif What a f*cking idiot I am. I suppose he could be a Jew.. in which case he looks just about right but I still think that the model doesn't really capture him that well. I always thought of Rami looking more Satan like.. like kind of an Evil Jesus or something. smile.gif

The weapons will no doubt be great in this topic but things like Music and to a lesser extent vehicles will be a bit of a challenge as there are no niche items within those catagories that will really fit the theme of this concept. If you can create a good story for this it will be a winner but I just think it will be hard to do without stepping on ideas that have already been put out there in other concepts. I hate to sound pessimistic but I just think you should consider this before starting into the topic and potentially abandoning it a few weeks or months down the line. Hopefully you understand where I'm coming from man yes?
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QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Jan 30 2011, 19:56)
QUOTE (mati1501 @ Jan 30 2011, 19:38)
@LuisBellic: Thanks. I plan 40 missions.

@MOB: Leave the prejudices away tounge.gif . Just kiddin'
I think Rami looks good as he is.

I only just now realised that some Israelis are Jewish biggrin.gif What a f*cking idiot I am. I suppose he could be a Jew.. in which case he looks just about right but I still think that the model doesn't really capture him that well. I always thought of Rami looking more Satan like.. like kind of an Evil Jesus or something. smile.gif

The weapons will no doubt be great in this topic but things like Music and to a lesser extent vehicles will be a bit of a challenge as there are no niche items within those catagories that will really fit the theme of this concept. If you can create a good story for this it will be a winner but I just think it will be hard to do without stepping on ideas that have already been put out there in other concepts. I hate to sound pessimistic but I just think you should consider this before starting into the topic and potentially abandoning it a few weeks or months down the line. Hopefully you understand where I'm coming from man yes?

Yes, I know what you mean. But I have ideas for the soundtrack and vehicles which really fit the topic. Just wait and see.
BTW, I found Rami on one of the artworks... He's in the top right corner.
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I think Jazz or Classical music would fit the theme, the atmosphere has in weather could be dark and moody, and for vehicles some kind of black, stealth vehicle and some sport cars for fast getaways.
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QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Jan 30 2011, 20:22)
I think Jazz or Classical music would fit the theme, the atmosphere has in weather could be dark and moody, and for vehicles some kind of black, stealth vehicle and some sport cars for fast getaways.

I am adding radio stations right now. It features Beat102.7, The United World (world music), Jazz, Triple Clef FM and Vladivostok (this time with European songs)
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