[John The Grudge]

QUOTE (LuisBellic @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 00:33)

Do you guys think there will be a Robin sequel? and if there is I want Riddler as a villian.

No I don't think there will be. Besides, I think Nolan was hinting at Blake become Nightwing rather than Robin. Nolan has already said that he didn't like the Robin character. So it seems in Rises he reduced it down to being Blake's real name. So as I said, I think it was likely a hint at him becoming Nightwing (Dick Grayson is Nightwing after he quits being Robin).

Nightwing has appeared in the Arkham City dlc and will appear in the forthcoming NeatherRealm DC fighting game Injustice: Gods Among Us. So it wouldn't be surprised if DC are building up to a future Nightwing film.

[Linki]

QUOTE (John The Grudge @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 07:11)

Watched the IMAX version yesterday in Edinburgh and wow. It's the first time I've seen anything in IMAX and it's mental. It's got a super sharp picture and the size takes some getting used to. The sound is so loud that your insides vibrate. Never mind 3D, IMAX is the future of cinema. It's a total assault on the senses way beyond anything 3D can deliver. Oh and the film was excellent too.

Well, thank God I've got tickets to see it on IMAX. The IMAX I'm going to is, apparently, the third largest screen in the world. I'm really looking forward to it. The sound sounds (hah) exciting as hell - that's just as important as the visuals in what makes a good cinematic experience to me.

This will be the first film I've seen in theater for three times, once I see it in two weeks again in IMAX. The Dark Knight was the previous record holder, seeing it two times

[John The Grudge]

QUOTE (Linki @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 08:01)

QUOTE (John The Grudge @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 07:11) Watched the IMAX version yesterday in Edinburgh and wow.  It's the first time I've seen anything in IMAX and it's mental.  It's got a super sharp picture and the size takes some getting used to.  The sound is so loud that your insides vibrate.  Never mind 3D, IMAX is the future of cinema.  It's a total assault on the senses way beyond anything 3D can deliver. Oh and the film was excellent too. Well, thank God I've got tickets to see it on IMAX. The IMAX I'm going to is, apparently, the third largest screen in the world. I'm really looking forward to it. The sound sounds (hah) exciting as hell - that's just as important as the visuals in what makes a good cinematic experience to me. This will be the first film I've seen in theater for three times, once I see it in two weeks again in IMAX. The Dark Knight was the previous record holder, seeing it two times

If you've not already booked your tickets, get a seat in the upper half of the cinema. I sat right in the middle row and I think a couple of rows back might have been better. Enjoy.

Regarding the sound, it's incredibly loud and sharp. Any kids might take a little while to adjust. I heard one kid tell his dad it was hurting his ears. That was near the start and he never made a peep afterwards.

This post has been edited by John The Grudge on Friday, Aug 3 2012, 09:52

[Linki]

QUOTE (John The Grudge @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 09:49)

QUOTE (Linki @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 08:01) QUOTE (John The Grudge @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 07:11) Watched the IMAX version yesterday in Edinburgh and wow.  It's the first time I've seen anything in IMAX and it's mental.  It's got a super sharp picture and the size takes some getting used to.  The sound is so loud that your insides vibrate.  Never mind 3D, IMAX is the future of cinema.  It's a total assault on the senses way beyond anything 3D can deliver. Oh and the film was excellent too. Well, thank God I've got tickets to see it on IMAX. The IMAX I'm going to is, apparently, the third largest screen in the world. I'm really looking forward to it. The sound sounds (hah) exciting as hell - that's just as important as the visuals in what makes a good cinematic experience to me. This will be the first film I've seen in theater for three times, once I see it in two weeks again in IMAX. The Dark Knight was the previous record holder, seeing it two times If you've not already booked your tickets, get a seat in the upper half of the cinema. I sat right in the middle row and I think a couple of rows back might have been better. Enjoy.

I'm sitting three rows from the top half. Hopefully that will suffice.

[Rockstar20124]

QUOTE (Robinski @ Tuesday, Jul 31 2012, 15:24)

QUOTE (Rockstar20124 @ Monday, Jul 30 2012, 17:59) You're not the only one believe me  Now I'm not really one to tell people there opinions are wrong. But I can't help but take issue with pretty much all of this post, and I'm an unemployed uni student and it's the summer so I've not got much else to fill my time today. QUOTE I really didn't care much for any of the characters in DKR. Good or bad characters. They were pretty shallow and unlikable. Catwoman pretty much sucked. Not really Anne Hathaways fault, she did her best with what she was given, her character was just very poorly written. I really would have liked Anne Hathaway given a small origin flashback giving her character more dept and emotion. Obviously I can't call out someone on how much they like a character, but Selina Kyle was hardly poorly written. Everything she does has a motivation and she's the only person who is actually introspective at all: she actually develops and changes her worldview throughout the film. In the first act she's obviously all for the supposed "storm" that is coming and fully in support of the rich getting what's coming to them, but upon seeing this come to fruition and having to adapt to live in Bane's regime she realises the answer might be a bit more moderate than "f*ck the rich" (reference: the scene in the trashed apartment "This used to be someone's home"). There's no need for a flashback for origin story to give form to her motivation, it's pretty explicitly implied. "Once you've done what you have to, they'll never let you do what you want to" and Blake's lines about how she can't expect to keep running with a record like hers are pretty indicative that she fell into a life of crime against her will and has since been trying to shake it. QUOTE Even Halle Berry has a much more entertaining and somewhat devious portrayal of Catwoman. This is where my bullsh*t alarm went off. Either you never saw that film or you're willingly ignoring the tone that the Nolan trilogy is going for. QUOTE But that probably wouldn't have saved the poorly written script anyway. You can argue about how in-your-face and hamfisted any Nolan script (not just this trilogy) is with how blatant they are about establishing themes and ideas, often stating them outright, but to say it's poorly written is a bit of a misstep. Clarity and a lack of subtlety might lead to a lack of naturalistic dialogue, but it is memorable and has a powerful effect on the audience even when you've got less of a dialogue and more of two characters monologuing. QUOTE Bane looked somewhat impressive with the body language and stature. But he was reduced to a hechman with the Talia twist and then got shot by Catwoman who just drops by with the batbike and shoots him to death. The voice and mask of Bane was pretty much ridiculous too. No venom to enhance his physical strength, just a mask to make him breath better because he was mutilated? many people claim that Bane was reduced to a henchman role upon the reveal of Talia. While I agree somewhat that it might have been better to not include her, her appearance doesn't discount from any of the other stuff that Bane orchestrated. He still broke the Bat, he still took over a city, bent the US government and military to his will and instigated the slow burn of Gotham. As for his death he had already been defeated physically and in terms of the plot. Batman had broken him physically and mentally, he'd already won. If anything, Selina finally offing him with the guns demonstrates two things: 1) that Gotham doesn't need the Batman even to defeat "super" villains any more, a regular citizen is capable of it and 2) that even though he abandons the structures of normal law enforcement, Batman's self imposed structure of rules ("No guns, no killing") is self-defeating. I think you're missing the relevance of masks through the two main character as well. They both use their physical mask as a crutch: Bane's literally dulls his pain and Bruce's dulls the pain of his identity crisis and feelings of powerlessness in the face of crime. The difference is, only one of them is defeated by their dependence on the mask and the other manages to triumph over his need for it. QUOTE Btw, the pitt section for Batman/Bruce Wayne to escape from was tedious and way too long. Guess you missed all the relevance of the whole "Rises" arc of the film. It's about rebirth and that whole sequence is pretty much the turning point in Bruce realising that the reality of what he needs Batman to be, and what the people of Gotham need from him is different to what he's been thinking all along. If it were reduced in time/prevalence you'd end up with a lot of unexplained character development in the closing act. QUOTE Alfred leaving out of the blue with a tedious overemotional scene? *cringe* This has been building for three films. This Alfred has never been gung ho and enthusiastic about the idea of the Batman like in other media. The reappearance of him makes him realise that the most effective thing he can do to get Bruce to stop at this point is to stop helping him. QUOTE Talia twist ruining Bane's character reducing him to a henchman *cringe* Bane killed a Boba Fett death with one shot by Catwoman *cringe* Meh, see above. QUOTE Talia dying in a car crash *cringe* Yeah, that death sequence was in no way a call back to how her father died in a huge vehicle flying off a drop orchestrated by Batman, no way. I will concede though, that Marion Cotillard's ending speech followed by her pretty much just flopping dead was laughable. QUOTE Batman "saving" Gotham City with the nucleair explosion close to the city still giving people radiation *cringe* I'm probably wrong on this, but wasn't it some sort of new type of energy source anyway, you can't really speculate on the effects of the detonation other than what you see. As far as I can remember it's only referred to as nuclear once by the military who've never seen that device before and are looking at it through a satellite. Even then it's just a pretty obvious way of signposting to the audience that "This is a really big bomb guys". QUOTE Alfred crying at Wayne manor *cringe* I'd say you just didn't gel with this character at all, or were just after a more action, less thinking blockbuster. This ain't The Avengers son. QUOTE Joseph Gordon Levitt called Robin by someone insignificant. Also he should not have been called Robin but Dick Grayson or another "Robin" character name FFS *double cringe* Does it matter who calls him by the name? It's not as if he's actually going off to become the Robin of the comics or anything. That was just a little nod to the audience to say that this guy we've seen running around for 2 and a half hours doing the things that Batman either couldn't or wouldn't do is the role a "Robin" character would fit in this universe. Do you really think most of the audience would get the reference if it were "Dick Grayson"? I sure as hell wouldn't have. QUOTE Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle happily drinking seen by Alfred *triple cringe* I *think* Nolan's gone on record somewhere saying that he felt that with his take on the universe he felt he could give some much needed closure to the character of Bruce Wayne. Thanks to the serialised nature of comics and such stuff, the character will never really gain a happy "ending" at all. Seeing as Nolan said from the beginning this was his last film in the universe, it's only right that the character gets a much needed ending. It just so happens that it's a happy one. Like I said, you're entitled to your opinion and all. But to say that this film isn't worth seeing is a disservice to the franchise as a whole and and sells the audience a bit bit short. Maybe some of us want a bit more thinking in our comic book films?* *Okay, that does sound a bit ridiculous.

Nice thorough reply, and I respect your opinion But it will not change my mind one bit about my massive disappointment in this cringeworthy movie I can laugh about it now somewhat. But I'm still baffled by the ridiculous high scores this film is getting. People who give this movie a 9 or 10 are brainwashed, overhyped, caught up in a mob mentality (without flaming torches and pitch forks this time) similar to Bieber fans and/or just simple idiots. Calling this boring movie better then TDK is a disgrace to Heath Ledger and one's own common sense.

As for Catwoman portrayed by Anne Hathaway. I still think she is very poorly written and average to mediocre acted. Maybe there is a subtle difference with the morality somewhere. It should have been more clear to me. But the lack of depth of her character without any origin story/flasback was poor anyway. And her body language including her facial muscles like eyebrows, mouth to smile/grin devilish were lacking severly so her non verbal language wasn't supporting whatever she was saying. No charisma, fun slighty arrogant attitude whatsoever. Just like the forced romance between her and Batman which lacked chemistry.

Also, she lured Batman to Bane in the first fight because they otherwise were going to kill her? Or her little insignificant female side kick who likes to steal watches? Who the hell was she anyway? Plothole anyone? I thought she or at least the Catwoman I know could knock out a battalion of henchmen who apparently threatend her. Even without her severly lacking claws and whip in this movie Obviously, Batman forgives everything she stole from him, his fingerprints, mothers necklace and sports car, and the fact that she betrayed him to Bane getting knocked out, injured and almost killed by him. Really? And then with the godawful ending they are happily drinking in Florence

Anyway, if you want to see more "negative" but realistic reviews read some of these on imdb.com. It's funny how the movie is rightfully being roasted and comforting that I'm not the only one who thinks that way but also saddening because I actually love the Batman character and he didn't deserve such a terrible trilogy ending movie

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1345836/reviews?filter=hate

ALSO, I still advise people to save their money not watching this movie in cinemas but watching the original Batman movies by Tim Burton or The Dark Knight. And if you want to spent your money on something relatively new with Batman, buy Arkham City GOTY edition if you don't already own the regular version. The story isn't as good as Arkham Asylum but it still pretty entertaining with a much better portrayed playable Catwoman character with claws and a whip

[Linki]

Imagine how horrible it must be to live in such ignorance; to not be able to enjoy films like TDKR. May God have mercy on your soul.

[Vanilla Shake]

I'm going to say this; DO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON SEEING THIS. IT REALLY IS WORTH IT, EVEN FOR JUST THE AWE-INSPIRING ACTION SCENES ALONE.

[GTAvanja]

Is anyone else in love with Bane's coat? I want one damn it!

[Narcis_speed6]

QUOTE (GTAvanja @ Saturday, Aug 4 2012, 10:55)

Is anyone else in love with Bane's coat? I want one damn it!

It was designed by Lindy Hemming and it took 2 years to make, but I would still love to own one.

[DeeperRed]

QUOTE (Vanilla Shake @ Saturday, Aug 4 2012, 02:02)

I'm going to say this; DO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON SEEING THIS. IT REALLY IS WORTH IT, EVEN FOR JUST THE AWE-INSPIRING ACTION SCENES ALONE.

This is soley down to opinion but I never found any awe in this film. I enjoyed myself up until the 3rd act but I never found any "wow" moments. It was all very grand in scale and design but that was to be expected. TDK as a whole was awe-inspiring, many great moments/scenes in that however here nothing really stood out apart from the fight/confrontation between Bane and Batman (That was more the dialog/acting then the fight itself)

[Linki]

QUOTE (DeeperRed @ Saturday, Aug 4 2012, 13:19)

QUOTE (Vanilla Shake @ Saturday, Aug 4 2012, 02:02) I'm going to say this; DO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON SEEING THIS. IT REALLY IS WORTH IT, EVEN FOR JUST THE AWE-INSPIRING ACTION SCENES ALONE. This is soley down to opinion but I never found any awe in this film. I enjoyed myself up until the 3rd act but I never found any "wow" moments. It was all very grand in scale and design but that was to be expected. TDK as a whole was awe-inspiring, many great moments/scenes in that however here nothing really stood out apart from the fight/confrontation between Bane and Batman (That was more the dialog/acting then the fight itself)

The opening prologue? The Gotham stock exchange heist? The return of Batman? The stadium? Any scene with The Bat!?
Seems you just can't impress some people, no matter how great and epic these mostly REAL stunts and set-pieces are.

I'm seeing it in IMAX now! Changed booking to today, got good seats and am ready for an intense experience. I was reading up on the IMAX I'm going to and how there is literally nothing better to see a movie with. What makes it more exciting is how TDKR is made for this - plus the movie's pretty f*cking awesome to boot.

[Toke]

I too was not overly impressed with this movie. Maybe its just the "hard core"(not really btw I just happened to be really into Batman comics when Bane broke Batmans back way back when.) Batman fan in me but if Bane isn't a massive hulking beast with drugs pumping through his veins and not a glorified morphine user then it simply isn't Bane.

And the Batman/Bane fight, what a crock of sh*t. This is a BATMAN movie, I expect epic fights not what looked to be more like two old people in wheel chairs swinging wildly at each other until one gets a lucky blow and knocks the other guy off his chair.

And the Batcopter or whatever the f*ck they called it, looked stupid and its weaponry was laughable, epically considering the past badass batman vehicles we've seen in the other Dark Knight movies.

Catwoman? I personally didn't even see the need for her character, she really added nothing to the movie.

The plot and storyline were ok in my opinion but really what I had expected from such a extensive and massive marketing campaign was cut short and in the end I left disappointed.

The destruction cgi across the movie was the only thing that truly impressed me, that and the big fight between the cops and criminals

[AceRay]

QUOTE (GTAvanja @ Saturday, Aug 4 2012, 23:55)

Is anyone else in love with Bane's coat? I want one damn it!

I have a jacket that's really quite similar to Bane's, all it needs is white wool around the collar instead of brown. It is awesome.

[Linki]

Just saw it at IMAX. That was the most entertaining experience I've had at a theater. The picture quality was so good. The screen itself was giant. I felt like I was literally in the movie. The sound was incredible and... just wow. I know why this is called the most immersive viewing experience available.

Can't believe I've enjoyed it more every time I've seen it.

[pauliux2]

Just saw the movie, it was awesome. And i have a little question, At the very end, we see Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle sitting in the Coffee Bar. So, as i understand, Batman died, and Bruce is alive? And if it is that way, then why was Alfred crying at someone's grave? The end is a little maze to me..

[AceRay]

QUOTE (pauliux2 @ Sunday, Aug 5 2012, 21:34)

Just saw the movie, it was awesome. And i have a little question, At the very end, we see Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle sitting in the Coffee Bar. So, as i understand, Batman died, and Bruce is alive? And if it is that way, then why was Alfred crying at someone's grave? The end is a little maze to me..

Basically, Alfred tells Bruce that he dreamed that he would be at a cafe in Florence (or somewhere in Italy) and see Bruce eating with his wife/girlfriend and kids. They would exchange glances briefly and look away, minding their business. Knowing this, after faking his death by setting the bad pod to auto pilot and jumping out early, Bruce goes to that same restraunt with Selina and re-enacts that scene, letting Alfred know he's alive.

The scene where Alfred cries at the grave takes place before he goes to Italy.

[DeeperRed]

QUOTE (Linki @ Saturday, Aug 4 2012, 23:23)

QUOTE (DeeperRed @ Saturday, Aug 4 2012, 13:19) QUOTE (Vanilla Shake @ Saturday, Aug 4 2012, 02:02) I'm going to say this; DO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON SEEING THIS. IT REALLY IS WORTH IT, EVEN FOR JUST THE AWE-INSPIRING ACTION SCENES ALONE. This is soley down to opinion but I never found any awe in this film. I enjoyed myself up until the 3rd act but I never found any "wow" moments. It was all very grand in scale and design but that was to be expected. TDK as a whole was awe-inspiring, many great moments/scenes in that however here nothing really stood out apart from the fight/confrontation between Bane and Batman (That was more the dialog/acting then the fight itself) The opening prologue? The Gotham stock exchange heist? The return of Batman? The stadium? Any scene with The Bat!? Seems you just can't impress some people, no matter how great and epic these mostly REAL stunts and set-pieces are.

Have you stopped to consider that people have different tastes to you ?

The scenes in the Dark Knight with the two boats, each with a detonator far exceed any of those. Fantastic tense stuff, the jokers f*cked up philosphy in action. The mentioned above just lack any real impact for me on an emotinal level, thus lacking a sense of awe. Great set pieces on a visual sense but nothing really more to me.

Many movies have scenes that have left me in awe. This didn't, just accept that someone has a different view on somethings.

[goin-god]

I watched this today and I loved it. It's as good as TDK, I can't really decide wich is better but the Joker will always be my favourite character.
At the end I actually felt like crying, very few movies can do that to me. To the people saying the movie is bad and should be avoided: You don't understand it, simple as that.

[DOOM!]

I found Ann Hathaway to be a very, very sexy Catwoman. Did she have f*cking blades for her heels? Jeez-la-weez. The movie didn't top TDK, but it wasn't a bad movie by any means. I just don't like the fact that for the last 45 minutes I felt like I was at a M. Night Shyamalan movie.

I also don't like how people try to compare a comic-book to a multi-million dollar movie. It is inspired off the comic books, not a direct movie from them. I preferred TDKR Bane over...



Very "cringeworthy" might I say.

[GTAvanja]

QUOTE (DOOM! @ Monday, Aug 6 2012, 06:56)

I found Ann Hathaway to be a very, very sexy Catwoman.

There's an understatement. I think when she first appeared on screen, the entire male population in the theater gave her a standing ovation, if you know what I mean.