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Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim You know you make me wanna SHOUT!
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| QUOTE (Robinski @ Dec 12 2010, 03:45) | Oh snap. Didn't see this coming. I can't wait, a year's not even that long anyway.
That teaser, f*cking dragons man. They've been built up as some ridiculously powerful, ancient and supposedly extinct thing in ESIV (I think). I wonder how long after IV it's set? |
They're far from extinct, the Ka Po'Tun are an akaviri race of cat like people who have been attempting to become dragons for ages (since the Tsaesci wiped the dragons from Akavir ages before during one of numerous wars) and their leader is the first of them to have actually succeeded, taking the appearance of a massive orange and black scaled dragon, the biggest on Nirn (though all lore relating to Akavir is best left up to interpretation). It's also been rumored on multiple occasions that dragons still reside deep within the Dragontail mountains (as well as just above the clouds over all of Tamriel), where they retreated to after being chased from their home in Morrowind by the non-native Cliff Racers. There are also drakes which have always been a consistent threat to sailors, drakes essentially being underwater dragons. Dragons in TES are also supposed to be impossibly intelligent, wise and mysterious, I hope they don't throw the lore out the window and make dragons mindless killing machines like they did with IV and Mehrunes Dagon. If they f*ck this up like they did with Oblivion I won't be able to forgive them. And yes, I do know way too much about the TES universe. This post has been edited by The-King on Sunday, Dec 12 2010, 10:18
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| QUOTE (The-King @ Dec 12 2010, 12:15) | | QUOTE (Robinski @ Dec 12 2010, 03:45) | Oh snap. Didn't see this coming. I can't wait, a year's not even that long anyway.
That teaser, f*cking dragons man. They've been built up as some ridiculously powerful, ancient and supposedly extinct thing in ESIV (I think). I wonder how long after IV it's set? |
They're far from extinct, the Ka Po'Tun are an akaviri race of cat like people who have been attempting to become dragons for ages (since the Tsaesci wiped the dragons from Akavir ages before during one of numerous wars) and their leader is the first of them to have actually succeeded, taking the appearance of a massive orange and black scaled dragon, the biggest on Nirn (though all lore relating to Akavir is best left up to interpretation). It's also been rumored on multiple occasions that dragons still reside deep within the Dragontail mountains (as well as just above the clouds over all of Tamriel), where they retreated to after being chased from their home in Morrowind by the non-native Cliff Racers. There are also drakes which have always been a consistent threat to sailors, drakes essentially being underwater dragons.
Dragons in TES are also supposed to be impossibly intelligent, wise and mysterious, I hope they don't throw the lore out the window and make dragons mindless killing machines like they did with IV and Mehrunes Dagon. If they f*ck this up like they did with Oblivion I won't be able to forgive them.
And yes, I do know way too much about the TES universe. | Nothing to be ashamed about. TES Lore is very rich and extremely fun. Now I gotta reinstall Morrowind. I was thinking about reinstalling Oblivion but Morrowind is just better and all.
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5deep3u

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| QUOTE (Robinski @ Dec 12 2010, 05:35) | | QUOTE (The-King @ Dec 12 2010, 10:15) | *WORDS*
And yes, I do know way too much about the TES universe. |
You don't know too much. You know just the right amount.
Reading that actually brought a lot flooding back, I remember reading some of the lore about the Akaviri races and it was pretty interesting. Hadn't heard of them going for some sort of ascension to dragon-hood though, that's pretty cool. Were the Tsaesci some sort of Planet-of-the-Apes monkey men? I seem to have that image in my head.
To expand on what I said earlier, in addition to Dragons I can't wait to see some of the Nordic mythology and all that crazy stuff up in the mountains. I hope there's a more orginal fantastical spin on the area than Cyrodil got, which was pretty much a generic fantasy world. The art style of the trailer was pretty cool too, I like the stone fire a lot.
ME3 and ESV in one day. I only just got up and today is a good day. |
The Tsaesci are the vampiric race of humanoid serpents who ate (whether figuratively or literally, it's up to personal interpretation) all the humans on the Akaviri continent, as well as exterminated or turned all of the dragons on the continent into slaves. Not to mention ruled all of Tamriel for a good 400 or so years and attempted to enslave or wipe out all of their neighbors at some point or another. The Ka Po'Tun are the cat-like men and controllers of the greatest empire on Akavir who've taken it upon themselves to become dragons (their leader being the first to have accomplished this). The other two nations on Akavir are the Tang-Mo, a race of intelligent monkeys who group together on a year to year basis to repel attacks from the demon armies of the frozen land of Kamal, the other, who thaw out each year and invade their home in an attempt to enslave them, but are repelled in kind. Akavir has always been fascinating to me, more-so than any other part of the TES universe, since it's painted out to be such an utterly mysterious realm, kind of holding the same mystique the orient used to hold back in the early days of world exploration since it's an obvious parallel to that. I keep considering reinstalling Oblivion, but then I slap myself because I remember why I uninstalled it multiple times before, it's just way too dull and dry, especially after playing Fallout 3 and New Vegas and put next to Morrowind. I'll probably give it one more chance once I get a good PC and I can deck it out with graphic mods, better cities, unique landscapes, and the like. This post has been edited by The-King on Sunday, Dec 12 2010, 11:53
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| QUOTE (Robinski @ Dec 12 2010, 05:57) | | Well it is a lot easier to write about a mystical realm than it is to actually create one. If Tamriel is the Europe of the ES series then Akavir really is the Asia equivalent. The only real hard evidence of it that I've seen is the armour/weapons though, but the parallels with both Europe and China having dragon legends and Akavir/Tamriel having the same aren't exactly subtle. |
You also can't discount the styling of Cloud Ruler Temple, which is supposed to be of Akaviri descent. The Tsaesci kind of strike me as a parallel to the Huns, in that the entiriety of their existance is drawn from their conquering of other cultures and integrating them into their own, both one of the assumed origins of their descriptions as vampiric serpents and directly related to the argument that they didn't actually, physically, eat all of the men on Akavir and instead eat being used as a metaphor for absorption into their society. The Dragons were never actually legends, they originated from Akavir (where they're now extinct), and in Tamriel they ruled the skies above Morrowind for ages (specifically the area around Red Mountain), until the Cliff Racers invaded and chased them out due to sheer numbers. They moved on and supposedly aided Cyrodil during wars on multiple occasions in exchange for shelter and protection. There are still rumors that they live in and around isolated, highland communities to the north as well as having taken up residence in abandoned structures and derelict mines. I can only hope the story in V revolves around a rebellion of sorts, rather than going the Reign Of Fire route which would be utterly boorish. Something along the lines of history being a lie as it usually is and the dragons actually having been used as slaves to fight their wars by early Emperors and then being wiped out or forced into captivity because their power and intellect were feared. Would bring back the gray that made me fall in love with the TES series and give you some interesting decisions to make along the way.
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