[GooD-NTS]

QUOTE (TheChopShop)

am I reading this right? ..Doomer is being denounced and denied as part of the OIV team?

3Doomer never been a part of OpenIV team.

QUOTE (TheChopShop)

if this is true, why does his script export Obd/Obn (OpenBoundsDictionary, as in OpenIV) vs Wbd/Wbn?

He just support for our openFormats in his GIMS. openFormats is part of OpenIV not of GIMS.

QUOTE (TheChopShop)

and if he wasn't part of the team, then why was GooD-NTS doing the majority of posting GIMS releases?

Because GIMS is currently the only script that have support for our openFormats.

QUOTE (TheChopShop)

even tho GIMS admittedly used some of Shadow's Coding, this was a raw move on Shadow's part imo and it achieves absolutely nothing well, that's not entirely true.. as it certainly serves to alienate Doomer from this community and put a stop his excellent and timely work

I think if 3Doomer will remove Shadow's code part, the problem will be solved.

[TheChopShop]

ffs- that's got to be the biggest bunch of bullsh*t I've ever heard, you're simply throwing him under the bus

team

noun /tēm/
teams, plural

1. A group of players forming one side in a competitive game or sport

2. Two or more people working together
- a team of researchers
- a team effort

3. Two or more animals, esp. horses, harnessed together to pull a vehicle

verb /tēm/
teamed, past participle; teamed, past tense; teaming, present participle; teams, 3rd person singular present

1. Come together as a team to achieve a common goal
- he teamed up with the band to produce the album

2. Match or coordinate a garment with (another)
- a pinstripe suit teamed with a crisp white shirt

3. Harness (animals, esp. horses) together to pull a vehicle
- the horses are teamed in pairs

[MrPaul123]

TheChopShop you're really not helping... We need a mod to reopen the thread so these guys can continue to work their magic!

Last thing we need is another tools dev leaving these forums...

This post has been edited by MrPaul123 on Thursday, Apr 14 2011, 22:30

[Shadow-Link]

QUOTE (GooD-NTS @ Apr 14 2011, 23:50)

I think if 3Doomer will remove Shadow's code part, the problem will be solved.

Indeed

Nothing against OpenIV, I am even using your tools for my mods too

I am just against using my stuff without permission.

[MrPaul123]

QUOTE (Shadow-Link @ Apr 14 2011, 22:32)

QUOTE (GooD-NTS @ Apr 14 2011, 23:50) I think if 3Doomer will remove Shadow's code part, the problem will be solved. Indeed Nothing against OpenIV, I am even using your tools for my mods too I am just against using my stuff without permission.

Ok, will you allow the mods to reopen the thread?...

[TheChopShop]

QUOTE (MrPaul123 @ Apr 14 2011, 22:26)

We need a mod to reopen the thread so these guys can continue to work their magic!

I think you're misstating, that sentence denotes that they're a team

yeah, I know.. calln a spade a spade never helps anything, it's always better to sweep everything under the rug ..when will I learn

[MrPaul123]

Well they are different projects... and different projects have different teams, this doesnt mean one cannot provide support for another ones project. Thats what good-nts means i think, basically he meant 3Doomer isnt part of the openiv development team, he has his own script project that is seperate . But i know what you mean. You really should learn not to call a spade a spade, it is quite annoying

This post has been edited by MrPaul123 on Thursday, Apr 14 2011, 23:03

[goin-god]

The guy is mistaking "helping others" with "teaming up with others".

2 diferent things.

[TheChopShop]

^ not at all, the mistake is yours.. as I've already said, just the fact that 3Doomer's scripts export Obd/Obn, and being that his intentions are/were to export Odr instead of Wdr says it all

or were you kats under the impression that 3Doomer decrypted and reverse engineered Wbd's? ..that would be GooD - and since Good gave 3Doomer the format to use in his scripts,
which would then be used in conjunction with OIV and OFs denotes that they were a team (ie- working together) - so you can save that poor technicality of 'helping others' garbage

I respect and appreciate both GooD and 3Doomer's works ..but the fact is GooD blatantly threw 3Doomer under the bus which compromises their relationship and associated projects

how would you feel if you were in 3Doomer's shoes ..if a kat you've been working hand in hand with starts blathering 'he's not with me, he's not on my team' at the first sign of "trouble"?

idk about you people, but I'd be pissed

edit-
@Paul - yeah, I'm well aware of the annoyance, as it's vice versa for kats like me when listening to timid 'lets not make a fuss' kats like you.. thpppt lol




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This post has been edited by TheChopShop on Friday, Apr 15 2011, 00:35

[gamerzworld]

Why can't you guys just be quiet, stop speculating and wait for 3Doomer to explain his point of view?

[GooD-NTS]

TheChopShop, you get this in wrong way. The only thing that I what to say in prev posts is 3Doomer not a part of the OpenIV development team and OpenIV team not working on GIMS. Thats all, I'm not saying that we not working together, we are.

QUOTE (TheChopShop)

but the fact is GooD blatantly threw 3Doomer under the bus which compromises their relationship and associated projects how would you feel if you were in 3Doomer's shoes ..if a kat you've been working hand in hand with starts blathering 'he's not with me, he's not on my team' at the first sign of "trouble"?

No, no, nothing like that, I'm sorry if you get it like that.

[TheChopShop]

that's honestly refreshing to hear.. as it certainly seemed to be the opposite considering the circumstances

and my apologies to anyone who may have thought I was trying to incite a riot or stir the pot sort of speak.. as that was not my intention

I was just like.. wth? and questioning what kind of person would do that to a friend/partner.. but I'm glad that's not the case

[MrPaul123]

QUOTE (TheChopShop @ Apr 15 2011, 00:29)

@Paul - yeah, I'm well aware of the annoyance, as it's vice versa for kats like me when listening to timid 'lets not make a fuss' kats like you.. thpppt   lol    --------------------------------------------

This is the internez, making a fuss like you did usually achieves nothing because you misunderstood what he meant anyway. Instead of being a smart ass, and copying the meaning of words from the dictionary to achieve your sarcastic message to the openiv development team which achieves nothing, why not provide support instead?

Ive seen many a tool dev leave the forum because of one or two people who moan, insult or be a smart ass.

That is all.



Now where is the key to unlock this thread?

[3Doomer]

Of course, I'd better create another thread for GIMS.
Shadow's DLLs're removed from the script package, because I haven't modified them. Now, WDR exporter in GIMS'll search for Shadow's plugin installed to use the DLLs.

I've looked into these DLLs(.NET's an opensource platform, you know), and created my own script, which uses them as I like.

[xXaerooff2Xx]

Hey where can i get link to 3.0 version? Please, reply.

[terreur69]

http://shadow-link.nl/?page_id=161

[GTA 3]

I get an error if i export a WDR-File.

"doNet runtime exception".

How can i fix it ?

[quechus13]

QUOTE (GTA 3 @ Monday, Aug 1 2011, 16:52)

I get an error if i export a WDR-File. "doNet runtime exception". How can i fix it ?

Don't use Shadow Scripts easy fix.

[terreur69]

QUOTE (Prince-Link @ Sunday, Aug 8 2010, 19:20)

Version 0.2.0 (01.11.2010)     * Enabled WDR Export     * Added Light Setup script

It's been a year that wdr customize posible finally, you have the eternal First guy allow a creationt of maps, the modding on GTA IV is finally developer, he saluted wait 2 years to be able to do that , then we Good-nts and 3Doomer took over and we create OpenIV / GIMS that can change everything in the game, but it would not feel anything, if you have not created the Shadow's-plugin, so thank you shadow!

[GhReCoN]

i get an error message
"-- Runtime error: Mesh Color-per-vertex vertex index out of range: 1 "