[chris]

QUOTE (Girish @ Sunday, Apr 15 2012, 18:59)

lol^ I see Liverpool fans sh*tting already. Makes me feel good. MmmmMmmm...

Football aside your club is utter scum mate, booing during the minute silence, not even filling your stand at a wembley semi-final, disgrace to football.

[4 Bagger]

QUOTE (MrDanceWithLance @ Monday, Apr 16 2012, 08:00)

Here is my Premier League final standings prediction: Manchester United Manchester City Arsenal Tottenham Chelsea

I like your thinking.

The final should be an interesting one now...

[MrDanceWithLance]

I can't believe the low level of respect the Chelsea fans had to the Hillsborough 96. They were making noise when they were supposed to be silent in the minutes silence. Also, some of their players didn't wear black armbands in their respect, with Fernando Torres and John Terry being two of them.

[4 Bagger]

QUOTE (MrDanceWithLance @ Monday, Apr 16 2012, 11:51)

I can't believe the low level of respect the Chelsea fans had to the Hillsborough 96. They were making noise when they were supposed to be silent in the minutes silence. Also, some of their players didn't wear black armbands in their respect, with Fernando Torres and John Terry being two of them.

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Even though Chelsea won 5-1, how the hell did Mata's goal count? It was no where near the line and the fact about 3 players were in the way of the ball, I thought that would have given the linesman a clue.

[MrDanceWithLance]

That is why Football need a video referee, just like Cricket and Rugby. There have been a lot of goal denied or worngly awarded in the past. Goal line technology will help to prevent this.

[PrometheusX]

Chelsea to take action over 'embarrassing' fans

The first thing that came in my mind after reading 'embarrassing fans' is the empty seats at Wembley.

[Tommy.]

Chelsea are scum! Going to be even more rivalry in the final but I still want Chelsea to win.

[Vercetti27]

sorry but judging from a photo I've seen it was very easy for the ref to give it, especially as mata was already celebrating and you have to make a fast decision . I'd say it was 95% over the line, meaning it was still not a goal, but a very tough decision .
Arsenal v Wigwam tonight- going to be hectic! 6-4 Arsenal I say

[Girish]

From that angle, it looks like the ball has crossed the line completely. But I agree that the goal probably shouldn't have been given because there's no chance that the referee or the linesman had a clear view of the ball. Regardless, it doesn't change the result. Spurs just gave up in the final 10 minutes or so which led to the fifth goal.

QUOTE (MrDanceWithLance @ Monday, Apr 16 2012, 16:21)

I can't believe the low level of respect the Chelsea fans had to the Hillsborough 96. They were making noise when they were supposed to be silent in the minutes silence. Also, some of their players didn't wear black armbands in their respect, with Fernando Torres and John Terry being two of them.

Don't be so naive. You're going to have a minority of scumbags in every section of the society. Being Chelsea fans has got nothing to do with it. Also, wearing black armbands has always felt like an empty gesture to me. How many players actually give a f*ck about what has happened? Very few.

[Gareth Croke]

The Ball didn't cross the the line, but the ballbag Terry did.

[4 Bagger]

Wigan leading Arsenal 2-0 by 8 minutes. Hahahaha.

Now 2-1...

[Vercetti27]

COME ON ARSENAL

[Gareth Croke]

QUOTE (Vercetti27 @ Monday, Apr 16 2012, 20:54)

COME ON ARSENAL

Whoops.

Looks like Wigan have won Aprils team of the month.

[02fishera]

I watched tonight's game in a pub full of Arsenal fans. While I have no dislike to Arsenal or their supporters, I must admit that it was quite funny seeing a room full of gooners with their heads in their hands after only 10 minutes. Better yet though, the outcome netted me £45.

[El_Diablo]

sorry to be slightly off topic...
but what's the deal with cardiac arrest amongst soccer players? sorry, I have to use "soccer" to distinguish between the following sports.

for the life of me I can't remember an American football (gridiron) or basketball or hockey or baseball player ever collapsing during a game and subsequently dying. I don't believe I've ever heard of it happening to a rugby player either. people get carted off all the time for major collisions but you never see someone simply drop because their heart stops beating.

in fact, the ONLY example of this from the other 4 major sports that I can recall is the story of Hank Gathers who died during a college basketball game when his heart stopped due to Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. but again, this is the ONLY instance I can think of that mirrors the situation we see in soccer pretty much every year.

what is different about soccer or the men who play it or their training/conditioning that causes an abnormal rate of cardiac issues?

[Gareth Croke]

QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Monday, Apr 16 2012, 23:39)

sorry to be slightly off topic...

Your talking about Football, it's not off-topic

Anywho, there could any number of reasons why it more prevalent in football than other sports, probably because football is the worlds largest participation sport, so bearing that in mind then the amount of players mean that statistically there is more chance of a player suffering from such cases.

There has also been speculation that due to the way players train these days they are actually doing too much cardio work or not enough, there is also the issue of diet as well, as a lot of players are being put on diets which can be low on energy releasing properties and actually stacking up on too much proteins which are good for bodybuilders and low stamina sports but not good for high stamina sports like football. Bearing in mind that on average a player can do 6km-8km a match, not taking into account that it's not like track 8km as in between the player will be stopping-starting and also doing a lot of lateral movements and jumping (and in Ashley Young's case falling down), so taking that into effect it more like an enhanced 8km Steeplechase.

Besides if your talking American Football Rugby players not suffering form such cases, then it could be due to the college system that Gridiron has, which is a very "unless your playing it professionally then your not playing it", which with football is not the case, as numerous Americans I've spoken to think is a great thing about football in that you can play the game professionally and amateur and still keep it the way its meant to be played. So as the collegiate system is in place with Gridiron the holistic approach is instilled in players and coaches, whereas in football players aren't from a collegiate background, to put it in American terms football players are just Regular Joe's whose Job is football, not educated Ivy Leaguers doing it professionally.

[The Killa]

Obviously I'm no cardiologist but I think it is odd as well, there has been an apparent increase in incidents lately, and I don't know why it's happening to super-fit football athletes.

I hope it doesn't have anything to do with modern "sport medicine" and all that they give your body.

On that subject, Fabrice Muamba has been released from the hospital today.

[SIKKS66]

All I know is that I'm sh*tting myself playing five-a-side lately. If super-fit footballers can have cardiac arrests playing the game, what hope is there for an unfit, junk-food munching muppet like me?

[The Killa]

QUOTE (SIKKS66 @ Monday, Apr 16 2012, 17:29)

All I know is that I'm sh*tting myself playing five-a-side lately. If super-fit footballers can have cardiac arrests playing the game, what hope is there for an unfit, junk-food munching muppet like me?

Hahahah, I get f*cking knackered even having a simple kickabout for 15 minutes. We have no hope mate.

[Seddo]

I'm un-fit as f*ck and gagging for oxygen after 10 minutes when playing footy. Had a kick about this evening and had to have a spell in goal for a breather, didn't help that i got a massive whack in the ribs that's still hurting now.

My cousins husbands nephew (sounds like a start to a joke) has just died this evening after playing football and he was only 21, just collapsed apparently. Again he played a number of times a week and was quite active.