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[noz786_nitro]

Ok guys here goes scroll down on the link below and download theses drivers. These are the official 9.8 (not beta) and can you post your results. If there any good i may actually go purchase gta 4 again just for these drivers. Thanks


http://blogs.amd.com/play/2009/08/14/what%...-quakecon-blog/

[girishb]

http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.../common-vista32

Not on AMD's site yet. Are you sure they're official?

Edit: Google tells me that the drivers will be released on 17th August.

This post has been edited by girishb on Aug 14 2009, 21:00

[noz786_nitro]

Read the blog mate. They were released on the blog and available to visitors at quakecon and they are the official ones. People just try them and post your results.

http://img268.imageshack.us/i/ati98.jpg/

[bishman82]

I got a 0.01+ FPS increase! Great drivers!*















*estimated benchmark results, not actually tried new drivers.

[truehighroller]

I think my stutter is gone now!! Maybe, I have been playing for an hour or two and no stutter yet.

[blood_hound]

WHAT!? new drivers again!? hell yeah! im testing this out now!

[BKwegoharder]

My goodness these are WONDERFUL drivers. The performance increase is like never before with any game from any driver update. The FPS didn't really change, but ALL stuttering is gone. It is like using the mem restrict command, but better since there is no pop in from it. I have a 512MB 4850 and I just pumped the graphics up to High Textures, Very High Reflections, Very High Water quality, Very High Shadow Quality and Highest Anisotropic filtering. I'm way over my vram amount but I used the availablevidemem 4 command. Usually doing that would cause lots of stuttering and pop in. But the game is perfectly normal. I'm absolutely amazed. I'm only have my view distance at 22 and Detail at 10, Vehicles at 33 and shadow Density at 0, but I'm planning on pumping those up as well. Bravo ATI. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

There are new problems though. Blood splatter has been toned down a lot.

Oh wait, false alarm on the blood splatter thing. I just uninstalled the enb series reflections mod and it seems like the issue is gone. So yeah. These drivers are WONDERFUL. I recommend any and every ati user upgrade immediately.

This post has been edited by BKwegoharder on Aug 15 2009, 00:53

[truehighroller]

Here is some more info about the drivers that I just run across when reading about these drivers on various websites.


AMD tells us the drivers deliver "enhancements specific to Performance Platforms that improve system performance in CPU bound situations." What does that mean? Well, using a system based on the Dragon platform (so Phenom II, 790GX, and Radeon HD 4800 graphics), the company says it measured considerable gains with multi-GPU configurations running at resolutions of 1680x1050 and higher.

Purportedly, performance can increase by as much as 50% in Far Cry 2, and you can also expect meaty gains in Battleforge, Company of Heroes, Crysis, H.A.W.X., S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky, and World in Conflict. AMD notes that the gains apply to both conventional CrossFire setups and the single-board Radeon HD 4870 X2.

[modCJpls]

QUOTE (truehighroller @ Aug 15 2009, 01:08)

Here is some more info about the drivers that I just run across when reading about these drivers on various websites. AMD tells us the drivers deliver "enhancements specific to Performance Platforms that improve system performance in CPU bound situations." What does that mean? Well, using a system based on the Dragon platform (so Phenom II, 790GX, and Radeon HD 4800 graphics), the company says it measured considerable gains with multi-GPU configurations running at resolutions of 1680x1050 and higher. Purportedly, performance can increase by as much as 50% in Far Cry 2, and you can also expect meaty gains in Battleforge, Company of Heroes, Crysis, H.A.W.X., S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky, and World in Conflict. AMD notes that the gains apply to both conventional CrossFire setups and the single-board Radeon HD 4870 X2.

Means less bottleneck.

[Chevyboy]

Not to shabby for one of my systems (have yet to try the second). I ran 10 benchmarks and this is the lowest FPS of the bunch.

Statistics
Average FPS: 45.37
Duration: 37.25 sec
CPU Usage: 94%
System memory usage: 74%
Video memory usage: 85%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Texture Filter Quality: Highest
View Distance: 30
Detail Distance: 100

Hardware
Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium
Service Pack 2
Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Video Driver version: 8.14.10.685
Audio Adapter: Speakers (Auzentech X-Fi Forte)
Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz

File ID: benchmark.cli


I don't have one handy for the 9.7 however the HIGHEST I recall ever seeing it was 40-41 FPS.

All in all not bad at all, guess they were true to the release notes this time around and did offer optimizations for CPU bound games.

System is in addition to what the benchmark shows:
E8500 currently at stock 3.16ghz
4870 512MB @ 790 / 1000 with -availiablevidmem 2.0 commandline to force high textures.

Additionally the VERY MINIMAL texture popins that were previously present (hardly noticeable) are now completely gone, even when using 800+MB of Vram on a 512MB card.

TLDR version: 4-5 FPS increase and no texture popins when exceeding vram limit when previously there were very minimal amounts.

[PacoGTA4]

please keep posting your results!

how do you guys unisntalled the old drivers before installing the new ones? just on control panel or with some utility?

[Chevyboy]

QUOTE (PacoGTA4 @ Aug 15 2009, 05:16)

please keep posting your results! how do you guys unisntalled the old drivers before installing the new ones? just on control panel or with some utility?

XP you should uninstall with the control panel and if you choose, a 3rd party uninstaller to clean up in safe mode.

Vista/7 it is highly suggested and even most of the 3rd party cleaners suggest NOT using the product and simply sticking to the built in uninstaller.

That said ATI drivers are meant to be installed over old driver versions, however there is nothing wrong (and this is my method) with uninstalling old drivers before installing new ones.

Basically if you run XP, 3rd party cleaners are fine, if you run Vista it can cause more harm than good, even the program authors usually suggest against usage in Vista/7

[noz786_nitro]

Guys as i sed at the top. I have a 4870 x2 and want to purchase this game again.

But i want to know has that stutter gone that use happen all the time with the earlier drivers?

[ikt]

I might use this driver, i use 505/503 (why nog 512??) and i notice popins.

[girishb]

QUOTE (ikt @ Aug 15 2009, 13:29)

I might use this driver, i use 505/503 (why nog 512??) and i notice popins.

Never exceed the amount of available resource. You never get the full 512MB because some of the graphics memory is already used up by your OS.

I'm trying the drivers now; will be back with the benchmark results.

Here's the result:

QUOTE

Statistics Average FPS: 43.98 Duration: 37.35 sec CPU Usage: 65% System memory usage: 63% Video memory usage: 72% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1152 x 864 (75 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Texture Filter Quality: Highest View Distance: 53 Detail Distance: 100 Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 2 Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series Video Driver version: 8.14.10.685 Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz

No gain for me; didn't expect it either.

Edit: Looks like these new drivers have killed about 10-15 fps in San Andreas and it gets even worse during rains. The 9.7 driver introduced texture popups and now this. I should just go back to 9.6 or something.

This post has been edited by girishb on Aug 15 2009, 12:49

[Nillus]

QUOTE (Chevyboy @ Aug 15 2009, 04:28)

Not to shabby for one of my systems (have yet to try the second). I ran 10 benchmarks and this is the lowest FPS of the bunch. Statistics Average FPS: 45.37 Duration: 37.25 sec CPU Usage: 94% System memory usage: 74% Video memory usage: 85% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: High Texture Filter Quality: Highest View Distance: 30 Detail Distance: 100 Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium Service Pack 2 Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series Video Driver version: 8.14.10.685 Audio Adapter: Speakers (Auzentech X-Fi Forte) Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU     E8500  @ 3.16GHz File ID: benchmark.cli I don't have one handy for the 9.7 however the HIGHEST I recall ever seeing it was 40-41 FPS. All in all not bad at all, guess they were true to the release notes this time around and did offer optimizations for CPU bound games. System is in addition to what the benchmark shows: E8500 currently at stock 3.16ghz 4870 512MB @ 790 / 1000 with -availiablevidmem 2.0 commandline to force high textures. Additionally the VERY MINIMAL texture popins that were previously present (hardly noticeable) are now completely gone, even when using 800+MB of Vram on a 512MB card. TLDR version: 4-5 FPS increase and no texture popins when exceeding vram limit when previously there were very minimal amounts.

Wow that's epic, I have a E8400 @ stock 3GHz (Arctic Freezer 7 Pro keeping it very cool so I can overclock it easily now!) and a HD4870 512MB just like you!
I'll try to use high textures again by using system ram as vram, to see if I get a kindof 'equal fps'.

This post has been edited by Nillus on Aug 15 2009, 14:37

[truehighroller]

QUOTE (Chevyboy @ Aug 15 2009, 00:20)

QUOTE (PacoGTA4 @ Aug 15 2009, 05:16) please keep posting your results! how do you guys unisntalled the old drivers before installing the new ones? just on control panel or with some utility? XP you should uninstall with the control panel and if you choose, a 3rd party uninstaller to clean up in safe mode. Vista/7 it is highly suggested and even most of the 3rd party cleaners suggest NOT using the product and simply sticking to the built in uninstaller. That said ATI drivers are meant to be installed over old driver versions, however there is nothing wrong (and this is my method) with uninstalling old drivers before installing new ones. Basically if you run XP, 3rd party cleaners are fine, if you run Vista it can cause more harm than good, even the program authors usually suggest against usage in Vista/7

I say don't give bad advise to people. I have Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit and work on PCs for a living and I have been for like ten years. I have been using Driver Cleaner.net and I have had no issues what so ever using it with my Windows 7 and I didn't have any issues with Vista Ultimate 64bit when I had it installed either.


I am running these drivers and did so last night for like 5 hours and there was no stutter at all. I still see the occasional pop in after awhile but, it is very minimal and barely noticable and that very well might be a memory leak still on the games coding part but the stutter is GONE!

This post has been edited by truehighroller on Aug 15 2009, 15:21

[CharmingCharlie]

Any news on the rain issue for you guys ? A lot of ATI users were reporting strange rain in strange places such as the lobby and under bridges. This problem goes away with older drivers (think 9.3 was the culprit) I am just wondering if ATI sorted it out for 9.8 ?

[Chevyboy]

QUOTE (truehighroller @ Aug 15 2009, 15:18)

QUOTE (Chevyboy @ Aug 15 2009, 00:20) QUOTE (PacoGTA4 @ Aug 15 2009, 05:16) please keep posting your results! how do you guys unisntalled the old drivers before installing the new ones? just on control panel or with some utility? XP you should uninstall with the control panel and if you choose, a 3rd party uninstaller to clean up in safe mode. Vista/7 it is highly suggested and even most of the 3rd party cleaners suggest NOT using the product and simply sticking to the built in uninstaller. That said ATI drivers are meant to be installed over old driver versions, however there is nothing wrong (and this is my method) with uninstalling old drivers before installing new ones. Basically if you run XP, 3rd party cleaners are fine, if you run Vista it can cause more harm than good, even the program authors usually suggest against usage in Vista/7 I say don't give bad advise to people. I have Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit and work on PCs for a living and I have been for like ten years. I have been using Driver Cleaner.net and I have had no issues what so ever using it with my Windows 7 and I didn't have any issues with Vista Ultimate 64bit when I had it installed either. I am running these drivers and did so last night for like 5 hours and there was no stutter at all. I still see the occasional pop in after awhile but, it is very minimal and barely noticable and that very well might be a memory leak still on the games coding part but the stutter is GONE!

I don't recall saying anyone COULD NOT use a third party cleaner on Vista/7, I said that most of the more popular 3rd party cleaners authors SUGGESTED AGAINST IT.

I've been building and servicing computers and various other electronic equipment for quite a bit longer than you, so please spare me the "I know best" routine.

Anyhow... arguing with people such as yourself (ones that make a point to say things like "don't give bad advice" without actually reading to what they are objecting to proves fruitless in almost all situations. Carry on with your lack of objective ranting.


@ Charlie. I was getting the "rain bug" on 1 of the 3 ATI gaming computers I usually play on (all 3 using the same drivers) and after testing it just now it appears that the rain is using properly detecting objects such as bridges once again. It's too small a sample size to say for certain, especially because 2/3 computers I use never experienced it however it is promising that the bug may be fixed.

@Nillus. Yes give it a try, the higher textures that is. If you notice popins you can always revert the changes, however I suspect you will see a small amount of FPS gains as I did as these drivers are specifically enhancing performance of CPU bound machines/games. Being that we both run C2D's we are both CPU limited in the game as is, moreso than the people using quads anyways. This is why others have reported no gains yet others with duo's seem to have some improvement.

Once I get a day or 2 off to overclock again (old MB kicked the bucket) I should be able to break the benchmarks 50 FPS barrier on a C2D chip, very promising results considering all the "you NEED a quad to play the game well" talk we had to endure for all those months by the masses of uninformed people. Not that anything over 30 FPS in the benchmark isn't more than playable but I have high standards

[truehighroller]

QUOTE (Chevyboy @ Aug 15 2009, 14:25)

I don't recall saying anyone COULD NOT use a third party cleaner on Vista/7, I said that most of the more popular 3rd party cleaners authors SUGGESTED AGAINST IT. I've been building and servicing computers and various other electronic equipment for quite a bit longer than you, so please spare me the "I know best" routine. Anyhow... arguing with people such as yourself (ones that make a point to say things like "don't give bad advice" without actually reading to what they are objecting to proves fruitless in almost all situations. Carry on with your lack of objective ranting.

Blah,


Then why don't you just say, if you use one, make sure to do some research so you are certain that the one you are going to be using works well with your OS?

@Charlie:

I think my rain issue is still there actually but, I will have to play it some more tonight to be sure.