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Darkseid  
Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 04:04
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Let the PS3 users have this exclusive title. After all, we got both GTA4 DLC's. Hopefully after TBoGT is released, R* will announce more DLC episodes for GTA4 exclusive only on Xbox 360. biggrin.gif
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 05:43
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QUOTE (Ciabatta @ Jun 5 2009, 03:42)
I am excited for this game but is L.A. Noire a dead project? And if so do you think R* North will turn their back on Agent too, I'm actually hyped for this one.

People get LA Noire and the unknown R* North title (now known as "Agent") confused very often. R* North has never been involved with LA Noire so they never turned their back on that game. I think that's why you asked if R* North would turn it's back on "Agent"?

LA Noire is created by Team Bondi and was originally funded by Sony. Sony dropped funding for the game and R* Games (not to be confused with R* North) picked up funding for the game. I think the indirect involment of both Sony and R* in the games history is why people confuse it with "Agent".

The title now known as "Agent" was a deal made directly between Sony and R* North around E3 '07 for a brand new intellectual property. Since LA Noire was a known I.P. at that time it should never have been confused with "Agent". Some people even thought that Red Dead Redemption was the unkown I.P. even though it was a sequel and not a new I.P.

I hope this answers your question or clears up any of the confusion you may have had. colgate.gif

Also, can't wait for more info, screens, trailers in the future.
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neo92boi  
Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 06:44
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I think Sony made a smart deal with Rockstar, If anything I think this is how it went down.
(ALL OF THIS IS COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL AND COULD HAVE BEEN DONE THE OPPOSITE WAY)
When the PS3 was being developed and was delayed a year and the 360 was already out R* was already in talks with Sony first way before Microsoft was. And R* said "hey we understand we have a close relationship with you and your platforms, but you must consider that we are a company who focuses on making business and we plan to do that in all facets, so you must expect us to branch to the other platforms to enhance our productivity (due to the massive amount of potential the 360 has and already has been showing) , so what shall we do to keep our relationship from falling.... :shows what they have planned for 2007-2010 and some conceptual Ideas for next gen consoles:
  • Table Tennis
  • GTA IV & DLC
  • MC LA
  • RDR (Concept)
  • LA Noire (Concept) (originally funded LOL)
  • Max Payne 3
  • Agent (Concept)
Sony agrees to R* and T2 that they would let all titles to be released on both consoles on the same date globally (IOW all titles are fair game to all platforms) in exchange for one complete EXCLUSIVE franchise only for the PS3, T2 and R* come to a mutual agreement and it is set instone. Then Months later R* contacts Microsoft and gets word of Sony's plan and
Microsoft must start where Sony left and acquires EXCLUSIVITY to GTA's DLC and Table Tennis.

I dunno there may be many holes in this theory but its how I see.

This post has been edited by neo92boi on Friday, Jun 5 2009, 06:48
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JOSEPH X  
Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 06:55
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I think it was just the PS3 owners claiming any game info coming out of R* as being their exclusive, Carlweathersarm, Perhaps now they`ll stop crying. Haha.

On topic, I find late seventies espionage a strange choice of subject for the "Ultimate Action Game" as Sam Houser put it. It`s difficult to know what kind of tone the game will carry, because the big espionage movies of that era were outlandish, exotic and far-fetched (Moonraker, The Eiger Sanction etc.) And there`s a reason for that, it`s because the reality was (and I`m not just plucking a word out of thin air here) sh*t. The cars were sh*t, the clothes were sh*t and the music was sh*t. The wallpaper was brown, the suits were brown, the politics was brown. In fact, the only thing that wasn`t brown was the dogsh*t, which for some reason was white. People went to the movies to get away from all that and watch Roger Moore take on Jaws in a submersible Lotus.

So which tone is Rockstar going to set with Agent? The far-fetched movies or the grim reality? The late seventies are exactly where they belong and where they should stay - thirty years in the past. The most appealing time to set agent in would have been the sixties, Connery, Harry Palmer, Twiggy and The Stones. I just hope for PS3 owners sake they`ve not been watching a lot of Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 10:50
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QUOTE (Darkseid @ Jun 5 2009, 14:04)
Let the PS3 users have this exclusive title. After all, we got both GTA4 DLC's. Hopefully after TBoGT is released, R* will announce more DLC episodes for GTA4 exclusive only on Xbox 360. biggrin.gif

Rockstar only ever planned two DLC episodes for GTA IV (Impossible Trinity), and Microsoft only paid for two. Anything else would just be tacked on and wouldn't fit. After TBOGT, they will move onto the next GTA, they won't keep punching out DLC for an old game.


But on topic, this game will be great. R* said they want to create the 'ultimate action game', so expect some free-roam from GTA and a much better weapon and cover system, as well as a powerful narrative.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 11:33
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f*ck Agent they better be spending plenty of time on the next GTA
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 11:51
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I'd love Free Roam.


Like finding your own way to do the mission like GTA, It should have multiple choices.

You should have a little HQ where you can keep going back after a mission for a briefing. Or to get new gear or to upgrade.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 12:09
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I would prefer to see multiple cities, as opposed to one city we can continously roam about. Considering the fact that this is a spy game I can imagine it will take us across the world and that's exactly what I am expecting. I'd prefer to see several cities that we can free roam; maybe no larger than Bohan or Dukes/Broker in Liberty City, each.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 12:41
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This sounds really good. I'm thinking Sam Fisher meets the Seventies from what they've mentioned about it. I guess I better forget upgrading my computer and start saving up for a Playstation 3.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 14:42
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Exclusives lol, lucky I have both consoles.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 15:17
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I felt a brief wave of sorrow at the fact that Agent could mean the end of GTA. Though I would agree that it's time to end the series once and for all. It's had a good run... Why start forcing them out?
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 15:32
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QUOTE (Keith Ward @ Jun 5 2009, 15:17)
I felt a brief wave of sorrow at the fact that Agent could mean the end of GTA. Though I would agree that it's time to end the series once and for all. It's had a good run... Why start forcing them out?

Bite your tongue off and swallow it.

They'd never scrap a cash cow like GTA.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 15:34
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QUOTE (Keith Ward @ Jun 5 2009, 16:17)
It's had a good run... Why start forcing them out?

Because they're far from done with the series? I cannot see them losing any money from it so until that happens there will continue to be Grand Theft Autos and there will continue to be people who think that just because a game on a new system is not as a good as a game on a older system that has had a lot more time to perfect itself is better. sigh.gif
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 15:48
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QUOTE (Jacky Fiend @ Jun 5 2009, 15:34)
QUOTE (Keith Ward @ Jun 5 2009, 16:17)
It's had a good run... Why start forcing them out?

Because they're far from done with the series? I cannot see them losing any money from it so until that happens there will continue to be Grand Theft Autos and there will continue to be people who think that just because a game on a new system is not as a good as a game on a older system that has had a lot more time to perfect itself is better. sigh.gif

If Agent is going to be the `ultimate action game`, what would any future GTA`s be? Not-so-ultimate action games?

Admit it, it`s over for GTA if they will be making games that they know from the outset are going to be inferior.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 15:53
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I wouldn't peg GTA as an action game, to be honest. Also, do you know anything about marketing? Of course they're going to say every game they make is the ultimate INSERT GENRE HERE game. Otherwise people wouldn't bother buying it.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 16:12
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Must have tuned out to the Sony conference before they announced this. Sounds like it should be good, looking forward to seeing some more info on this game.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 18:16
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"This is Michael Shorrock. I’m the Director of 3rd Party Relations at SCEA. As you may have seen this morning/last night on GameHead with Geoff Keighley, we are announcing that a new franchise from Rockstar Games will be exclusive to PS3. As part of our long standing relationship with Rockstar, and the incredible success for both companies with the cultural icon that is Grand Theft Auto, we’ve agreed to the PlayStation exclusive rights of the next great franchise from the Rockstar studios.
Everyone knows to have success in this business you need to look ahead, identifying the talent and titles that are going to give consumers new kinds of gaming experiences that help set the bar for the rest of the industry. Rockstar has a heritage for doing just that. We have had incredible success with the GTA franchise and are happy to continue to offer those titles on our platforms, and even more excited about what’s to come from the current and future relationship between our companies. Rockstar really wanted to make a game that you can truly only do on PS3, harnessing the power of CELL and Blu-ray disc and this deal lets them do just that.. This is really a win-win situation for both companies. As Jack mentioned in the interview with Geoff, this franchise is not LA Noire, but something all new. We agreed with Rockstar and Take-Two Interactive Software that we wouldn’t disclose anything more about the deal or title at this time, so stay tuned, we’ll share more info as soon as we can."


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/07/27/...ive-to-the-ps3/

This is an extract of the original announcement back in 2007.
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Sergi  
Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 19:20
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QUOTE (II J0SePh X II @ Jun 5 2009, 15:48)
QUOTE (Jacky Fiend @ Jun 5 2009, 15:34)
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It's had a good run... Why start forcing them out?

Because they're far from done with the series? I cannot see them losing any money from it so until that happens there will continue to be Grand Theft Autos and there will continue to be people who think that just because a game on a new system is not as a good as a game on a older system that has had a lot more time to perfect itself is better. sigh.gif

If Agent is going to be the `ultimate action game`, what would any future GTA`s be? Not-so-ultimate action games?

Admit it, it`s over for GTA if they will be making games that they know from the outset are going to be inferior.

Well they can always make GTA what it really should be. An in depth crime sim/action game that finally actually makes it seem as if you are a criminal in the underworld and choice is your option. Rather you want to be a big time gangster or a small time crook. A very in depth storyline and where you can make decisions. I think that's the next logical step for the GTA series. I'm very intrigued by Agent but I don't know enough about it to even put it on my Top 20 Most Anticipated list.
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JOSEPH X  
Posted: Friday, Jun 5 2009, 19:28
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Agent would still be possible on the xbox, the PS3 has a dual layer reading lens so the max would be 50Gigs. The plan by Blu-ray is to go to 16 layer disks 400G, but the PS3 couldn`t play them. With MS launching games on demand it would be possible to send bigger games down the line.

The only question with 50G is how big do you want a game to be? GTA IV is less than 8G, so they could do four cities the size of Liberty (Washington, Moscow, London and Berlin) and still have space for say, Afganhistan. They could just use cutscenes to go from one airport to the next, and hey presto you`ve just come out into a berlin that`s as big as Liberty City from a Washington or Moscow that was just the same.
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The Cold War era of the game is really appealing, it's one of those things that we still don't know much about. Those location ideas make me even more excited about the game. It reminds me of the Moscow level on the first Tony Hawk's Underground. I loved that level, and to have an action game in it would be fantastic.
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