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Grand Theft Auto IV
GTA IV + Windows 7 + Press key = mini studder?
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| QUOTE (HeXeD @ Jan 14 2009, 21:34) | Does anyone else have this behaviour so far? I have looked through almost every windows-7 thread here and I have seen one person who has the same problem but no mention of anyone else or any troubleshooting. Hopefully this thread can help out those people cause so far I have only had ONE problem with Windows-7... this one. If I can't get my GTA IV fix in within the next week I think I'm gonna have to go back to Vista...ugggg. So here is the info:
Specs: Intel Q6600 @3.2GHz Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Motherboard 4G Patriot PC6400 ATI Radeon HD 4850 320G Seagate 7200.10 SATA Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Fatality edition Logitech Bluetooth Keyboard Microsoft Habu Gaming Mouse 24" Samsung 2493BW (1920x1200) & 42" 1080p Westinghouse (1920x1080)
Problem: Everytime I press a key on the keyboard, the game freezes very quickly. We are talking about a ~250ms pause (1/4 a second). Just say I am in a car. If I use my mouse to scroll around the car, absolutely NO brief pauses or framerate issues. Once I press forward (W) to go, I will get a very brief pause but as long as I hold that button down, the care will keep going faster and faster with absolutely NO skipping/pausing/FPS issues. The second I press left (A) or right (D) I will get another breif skip. When you are hauling ass in a car, once that 1/4 of a second video pause catches up to where you are, you are most likely going to crash. I cannot play the game in this fashion. If you press a button once, and hold it, you can continue to hold buttons without the pause, but the second you press another button you will get the brief pause or studder. When you hit several buttons the pause/studder lasts much longer. If you are trying to bob and weave from the cops, while pressing different buttons (Up, left, right, run, jump) you might as well forget it because it chokes the video up very badly.
What I have tried to resolve the issue: 1. Reinstall 2. New drivers (went from the 8.12 Vista drivers from ATI to their Beta Windows 7 driver) was a huge PITA to uninstall the Vista drivers from Windows 7, specifically the Catalyst control center. 3. New drivers for my chipset 4. Uninstalled Sound Card and ran without sound. Still studder 5. Tried to mess with the Affinity of the GTAIV executable while it was running. Turned it to only using 1 core.. game ran like complete crap..and it STILL had the keyboard pausing. Tried 2 cores, same thing. When I did this the sounds was completely messed up. 6. Tried to mess with the priority of GTAIV.exe, set it to high and it did nothing. 7. Tried running the EXE in Win XP and Vista compatability mode, and not one of them even allowed me to launch the game. From what I have seen from people that are not having a problem is this should not be necessary at all.
The only thing I have no tried is a regular USB keyboard. Only thing I can think of is it is some sort of problem with the bluetooth or the way Windows 7 handles the drivers for my logitech, but I am only using what is automatically installed.
Of course everyone knows that Windows 7 is beta, and that it is not supported by Rockstar. But I think this could be an issue we find a resolution for if we put our heads together. The only thing I am worried about is not many people have reported having this issue.
Would be a shame to have to ditch Windows 7 for Vista just because of GTA, but I will definitely do it. GTA IV seems to run VERY smooth on Windows 7...provided I hold down the up arrow and drive in a straight line. | I have the same exact same problem.... I didn't find a solution yet Specs CPU: Intel i5 661 @ 3.33GHz RAM: 4 GB Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 GB OS: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit PSU: 750W Monitor: Acer 18.5''
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| QUOTE (HeXeD @ Jan 15 2009, 04:14) | | QUOTE (mazucaaa @ Jan 14 2009, 23:41) | | QUOTE (HeXeD @ Jan 14 2009, 22:58) | | QUOTE (creat3d22 @ Jan 14 2009, 22:19) | Right, if the whole game pauses/skips instead of just the player movement being delayed I guess it's something else. I don't keep up to date on Win7 but do you know when the next beta version is coming out? Maybe it's an OS issue since it's still just a beta...
Did you have that problem in Vista? Does the problem occur with other games in Win7? |
Yeah.. it's pretty much the ENTIRE game pauses for a breif second, but the sound is still in sync.
The video frame when you press the button is displayed (frozen) but only for VERY small time and then it skips to the frame it is supposed to be on half a second later or so. Hopefully I can get a fraps video of the issue, but it ONLY happens when I press a key on the keyboard.
I could even press a key not mapped to movement (ex. Horn) and it will give me a brief freeze. However, if I get on a LONG straight road, I can hold down "UP" and drive in the middle of the road crushing cars and killing pedestrians with absolutely NO frame skips, freezes, studders, etc..etc. It's like the game works perfectly until I actually try to control it with the keyboard.
I have no clue when the next beta comes out, but I will certainly be checking it out as soon as I can because I have a feeling it is OS related too... most definitely. It does not happen in Vista, and it does not occur with other games in Windows 7... such as COD4 and Fallout 3 (which both run like a dream).
the only reason I am not back on Vista is MANY people are playing this game with no problems in Windows 7 which leads me to believe it is more of a hardware configuration/incompatability that is causing this freak "bug" I am seeing. If I can find people who have the same issue, maybe we can find out what the similarities are so we can squash this and I can contiinue using Windows 7. |
dude, im having the exactly same problem here.... its frustrating because when im not touching the keyboard i can see that the game is running much smoother than it was in vista.... but as soon i touch the keyboard the freezing starts.... 
one thing i noticed...that doesnt happen when i use the controller..... ( but now the game crashes when a try to use a gun ) |
Well.. thats 1 person having the issue..
What are your specs? Whats drivers are you using? What have you tried to resolve the issue? What build of the beta? I'm on 7000. Is this a cleaan install? 64-bit version? Mine is 64-bit.
Here is what I have tried tonight....
I have tried to set the compatability mode to windows 2000 on the "launchgta.exe and gtaIV.exe". I have tried a simple Dell wires USB keyboard
I have not tried to just play with my xbox 360 controller, but to be honest.. I can't STAND using the controller. That is the primary reason I wait till the PC version comes out.
And for those of you who ARE NOT having this issue, what are your specs? What build of windows 7 are you on and is it 64-bit? Any information would be good, and the more information the more we can put our heads together and fix this issue. | hii i have acer 5742g laptop with... core i3 3gb ram nvidia gforce 540m ....1 gb 500 gb hdd.. i too expirience the lagging problem...even with low settings.. plz help...sugest the perfect settings...
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