[derek3056]

Remember this guy that Niko killed for Faustin? He's also a biker seen in the new trailer. Funny how the mission is called "No Love Lost"

Also notice: If you look at the new trailer you'll see a biker named "Jason". There's even a shot of him with what looks like Faustin's daughter walking next to him. That's the biker that Niko kills in the main story. Things are already heating up and this game isn't even out yet. Very cool.

http://media.gtanet.com/images/4560-gta-iv-no-love-lost.jpg

This post has been edited by derek3056 on Tuesday, Dec 23 2008, 21:15

[AussieDude]

Omg, great find, Except its been found and talked about since the trailor has been realsed...

[derek3056]

oh...woops

[LitoBX]

My brain is aching.

[Katalix]

It's possible that it takes place BEFORE Jason get's killed. Such as Niko doesn't take that task from Faustin just yet. So it's like it's before the time of Niko, know what I'm saying?

[Mafioso86]

QUOTE (Katalix @ Dec 24 2008, 06:34)

It's possible that it takes place BEFORE Jason get's killed. Such as Niko doesn't take that task from Faustin just yet. So it's like it's before the time of Niko, know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I think the game is going to begin a little bit before Niko arrives and end some time after Museum Piece. Reasons being Jason's death (though I guess he could die early in the game despite appearing to be a major character... much like Vlad) and the fact that the database in IV says Billy is locked up and he obviously is out for atleast part of TLAD.

[gta 4 gamer]

Yea, I figured that out around a week ago. If it is before Niko takes tasks from Mikhail Faustin then we all know it is not about the diamond scandal

[Nico Bellic]

well i think the story of Johnny is set at the same time when Niko's there ain't a problem to kill or lose this biker guy Jason from the beginning

[derek3056]

I'm hoping that Jason's and Clay's death(subway chase) will cause a little conflict between Niko and Johnny. Would make things VERY interesting.

[gregrein]

Clay was the guy you had to kill in that subway chase? He didn't look anything like him. If that was true though, it would really heat the story up.

[ChrisMathers3501]

Dude, Clay didn't die in the subway level. Jim Fitzgerald did.

[rubiomhs]

whatever i hope johnny kills niko in the dlc

[wolffreewolf]

hi got a pic of 1 here http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/nat...390fcd687d3.png

[Jackmackg]

it would be cool if there was a fight with Niko at the end. also i think in that same mission if you dont kill him fast he will get his friends. any one got a pic of them?

[imthatkiwiguy]

QUOTE (Mafioso86 @ Dec 24 2008, 07:43)

QUOTE (Katalix @ Dec 24 2008, 06:34) It's possible that it takes place BEFORE Jason get's killed. Such as Niko doesn't take that task from Faustin just yet. So it's like it's before the time of Niko, know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think the game is going to begin a little bit before Niko arrives and end some time after Museum Piece. Reasons being Jason's death (though I guess he could die early in the game despite appearing to be a major character... much like Vlad) and the fact that the database in IV says Billy is locked up and he obviously is out for atleast part of TLAD.

Sometime during the first few missions of GTA IV there is a news article on the Liberty Tree website about Billy Grey saying he has been released from rehab or whatever and is back on the streets, and how people are amazed at how light his sentence was so I think it will start with Billy being released from rehab which is just after you start the missions with Niko and end a little while after the mission 'No way on the subway' because after the mission Niko tells Ray what happened and Ray says to not worry and that he will get other people to deal with it so that could could be one of the last missions as Johnny fighting Rays men to get revenge for Niko killing his mate Jim, I don't think though there will be a fight between Niko and Johnny because of the time issue between both stories. Also I think your right about Jason with the Vlad thing. I was watching the trailer and I noticed Jason had square fingers so I'm guessing he wont be a main character as they are usually well detailed (eg have normal looking hands.)

This post has been edited by imthatkiwiguy on Saturday, Dec 27 2008, 09:07

[Lil' Red]

Jason was a nobody.

Those two bikers you chase through the subway. One of them was named Jim Fitzgerald and he was the oldest member of the Alderney chapter of the Lost OMG. He was someone's right hand man or something and I think he was for the peace treaty with the Angels of Death OMG.

He was just another biker gunned down in a mission. You don't even get a chance to look in his face.

[MC_320]

QUOTE (Lil' Red @ Dec 27 2008, 04:53)

Those two bikers you chase through the subway. One of them was named Jim Fitzgerald and he was the oldest member of the Alderney chapter of the Lost OMG. He was someone's right hand man or something and I think he was for the peace treaty with the Angels of Death OMG. He was just another biker gunned down in a mission. You don't even get a chance to look in his face.

OMG WHOA. I want to see this. What mission was this again?

[imthatkiwiguy]

QUOTE (Lil' Red @ Dec 27 2008, 09:53)

Jason was a nobody. Those two bikers you chase through the subway. One of them was named Jim Fitzgerald and he was the oldest member of the Alderney chapter of the Lost OMG. He was someone's right hand man or something and I think he was for the peace treaty with the Angels of Death OMG. He was just another biker gunned down in a mission. You don't even get a chance to look in his face.

What do you mean Jason was a nobody he is a member of the lost and on his police record it says he was a recent member and was loyal to Johnny. Plus in the mission 'No way on the subway' you do get to see Jim but he does not look much like he does in the DLC, you get a clear look at his face when you ask them where Johnny is and then he and his mate (it does not say who he is) take off and you have to catch and kill them. I'm not quite sure which one is supposed to be Jim because one was a white bald man with no lost jacket and the other was a white long haired bearded man with a lost jacket who I'm guessing was him, also there is that story about Billy being released from rehab on www.libertytreeonline.com (on the GTA IV internet) with a picture of Jim riding a bike (well the same bearded long haired guy you kill on 'No way on the subway'. And also Jim was very loyal to Johnny so that's why I thought there could be that mission of Johnny killing Rays men for revenge of Jim's death

[Tomern11]

QUOTE (rubiomhs @ Dec 26 2008, 13:10)

whatever i hope johnny kills niko in the dlc

You traitor lol!

Niko>Johnny

Niko is the best protagonist ever

[Nico Bellic]

yeah the bikers are hard but Niko...man Niko is like "made" from the war here in eastern Europe so i think ,if there is ever going to be a fight between Niko and Johnny ,then Niko will win...btw Johnny is also an amazing character but Niko is the BEST