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I know there are many people on the board eager for news on how well the PC version is selling and sadly it looks like "not very well" in the US is the answer. According to the almighty NPD here are the software charts for the US between November 30 and December 6. :-
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1. World Of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King - Blizzard 2. Spore - EA Maxis 3. The Sims 2 Deluxe - EA Maxis 4. Call Of Duty: World At War - Treyarch 5. Fallout 3 - Bethesda 6. The Sims 2 Apartment Life Exp. Pack - EA Maxis 7. Grand Theft Auto IV - Rockstar Games 8. Left 4 Dead - Valve 9. Far Cry 2 - Ubisoft Montreal 10. The Sims 2 Mansion & Garden Stuff Exp. - EA Maxis
We can but hope the game fairs better in Europe and the Asian regions. It is also important to remember that the NPD DOES NOT include sales made by channels such as Steam and Direct 2 Drive. I appreciate there will be some on this board that want to "gloat" about the poor sales and go "ha ha serves Rockstar right". However bear in mind this is NOT good for the PC overall and I will be watching this thread like a hawk so keep the trolling and the flaming OUT.
UPDATE
Some more charts are trickling in here GTA 4 for the PC is Number 3 in the steam charts only beaten by the Almighty Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress 2 (which is currently available for $10). So a pretty strong presence from GTA 4 on steam. Then we just need to look at the D2D charts and GTA 4 is Numero Uno, that's right it is Number One on D2D. This is inspite of it being a fairly hefty download (14gbs) and it is yet a further indication of the direction that the PC market is heading. So not all doom and gloom as the NPD would indicate. Many thanks to Adriaan at grandtheftauto.ign.com for finding these updated charts.
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Steam Charts As Of December 15
1. Left 4 Dead 2. Team Fortress 2 3. Grand Theft Auto IV 4. Call of Duty: World at War 5. Fallout 3 6. CS: Source 7. The Orange Box 8. Defense Grid: The Awakening 9. World of Goo 10. Counter-Strike
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Direct2Drive Charts As Of December 15
1. Grand Theft Auto IV 2. Fallout 3 3. Call of Duty: World at War 4. Red Alert 3 5. Kings Bounty: The Legend 6. Rome Total War 7. Neverwinter Nights 2: Storm of Zehir 8. Medieval Total War 9. Civilization IV 10. World of Goo
So it's not all doom and gloom and it shows the direction that PC sales are heading. Source : Kotaku
This post has been edited by CharmingCharlie on Dec 16 2008, 20:45
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Unfortunately, the almighty NPD does not consider online retail sales. GTA IV has been big on both Steam and D2D. Also, GTA IV sales are only considered for 5 days, compared to 7 for the rest. Also, consider 4 out of the 6 are PC exlcusives, and the other two are multi-platform titles with simultaneous release among all platforms.
However bear in mind this is NOT good for the PC overall and I will be watching this thread like a hawk so keep the trolling and the flaming OUT.
Too damn right it's not good. But for a game release which is unintentionally (or intentionally) structured to result in lower sales (the 7-month delay, the lies about the console versions being the ONLY versions, and the bad publicity due to it being a crap port and such), it has probably done quite well for itself.
Just imagine though, how good it would've done if it was released in April this year, was made separately and specifically for PC, and Rockstar still had credibility in the eyes of PC gamers. If only.
The way NPD counts the sales is very very oldfashioned. Even online orders at amazon.com etc. are not counted. So this says not much about the overall sales.
In Germany, Europes biggest gaming market, GTAIV is #1 since day of release.
I'm sure it's because of the most horribple port to PC of the history, all the people I know they were going to buy gta Iv for pc, didn't buy it thank to go because I advised them after I bought the mine.
Germany has always been a PC stronghold. Someone from Microsoft Games claimed if there's a simultaneous Xbox and PC release, 80% of the sales would be PC.
Would like to think that this is a kick up the ass they deserve but the reality is they probably feel more justified in giving us this "effort" in the first place.
I feel that until the ease of piracy is overcome we will see more and more of these ports. Shame they forget to easily where most of them began....
I for one am hopeing the bioshock series dont go down the same path.
This post has been edited by l3ritish_l3eef on Dec 16 2008, 18:16
It pisses me off that they're trying to boost console sales simply by manipulating the market. They're just robbing peter to pay paul- all to do a favor for different behind the scene contracts to get.. money! Nobody is defending the PC market- and it seems microsoft is just as guilty as the others. If microsoft knows what's good for them, they should be defending the pc market.
How many people keep windows around just to play games? Isn't that the core reason people don't jump to linux? If microsoft gets rid of the main reason to keep that dumb operating system- I see no reason to keep it. If they want to rob their PC gamer market to push their xbox crap, I figure they'll be doing themselves more harm than good in the long run.
Nobody's defending the pc gaming market.
Microsoft is as guilty as the rest for making under-the-table deals to make sure that GTA 4 is only a success on consoles, making Xbox sales more appetizing..
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Not really surprising.
I've seen loads of comments from people that were intending to get the game but have been put off by the complaints about the performance on various forums.
And to be honest, my advice to some curious friends has been that if they don't have at least a quad-core processor, 2GB of RAM, and a graphics card with at least 512MB then they should give the game a miss.
Or when your games gets published on torrent services on the first day, then get's downloaded by more than 100.000 people in 5 hours.
And then the pirates realize they're f*cked because their game is permanently drunk.
This really is the problem with PC games in general though.. Big titles are going to get pirated very quickly and in mass due to the barrier to piracy on PC being so low.
I think there is a culture in PC gaming to pirate - much more than to buy new titles.. Especially when you compare it to the consoles.
It's a damn shame GTA isn't doing better in the charts though - it deserves to.
Although, I have to wonder what effect the numerous problems have had on either a) putting off potential buyers or b) encouraging people on the fence to pirate instead of buy..
A sad state indeed..
I do hope all these issues get sorted over the next month and restore faith in the game which will hopefully stimulate new buyers down the line.. If modding becomes a big thing this may also help increase sales..
Jesus Mary ,all you guys talk about piracy in here like is only exclusive to the PC ,do you actually know how high piracy is on the X360???? And how games pirated on the x360 get released days,even weeks before release day (GEARS 2 ) ??
IF A GAME IS WORTH BUYING IT WILL BE BOUGHT ,even people who pirate games ,if they like the game,they buy it,for the multiplayer ,or just the pleasure to have it .
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