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 ~! Ultimate GTAIV Performance Fix !~

 
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QUOTE (DJ24966 @ Dec 15 2008, 20:11)
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I can't get it to work right for some reason. The game options always changes the resolution as well.

Are you limiting your VRAM with the multiplier? Because you have to do that so the game detects that it doesn't have enough memory to change the resolution, make sure your not using any un-restriction commandlines, norestrict and nomemrestrict are NO NO's!

What should I limit to? Like what number? Sorry for all the trouble, Just want to enjoy the game like everybody else.

What video card do you have whats its VRAM?, ill tell you specifically what to do.

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it sucks though that we have to make the game look worse..

No, its a very very small difference. Barely noticeable, only way I noticed it is when I was in the water. The sun reflection was a bit more stretched. Ill post screens later.

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After I add the file to the command line and start the game, it reverts back to default settings and still runs like sh*t. I could be doing something wrong, since your instructions are a bit confusing.


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Very nice walkthrough, gotta try this shortly, being a FPS Junkie biggrin.gif Kudos!
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QUOTE (DJ24966 @ Dec 15 2008, 20:21)
After I add the file to the command line and start the game, it reverts back to default settings and still runs like sh*t. I could be doing something wrong, since your instructions are a bit confusing.

Whats your vram, and whats your specs?. Ill tell you exactly what to do.

First thing is to get rid of your commandlines completely. Start the game, make your res 800x600 in the game options. Move everything else to how you want it, accept changes, look at the vram usage. See how much it takes up.

Then exit the game use -availablevidmem to limit your VRAM to exactly or simular to the amount being used ingame. Then add the line for your res, -height , -width, run the game. Make sure the options still say 800x600, and your settings r right. It wont let you exit, ctrl alt delete out. Restart game, play!. Done.

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QUOTE (MonkeyMhz @ Dec 15 2008, 20:22)
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After I add the file to the command line and start the game, it reverts back to default settings and still runs like sh*t. I could be doing something wrong, since your instructions are a bit confusing.

Whats your vram, and whats your specs?. Ill tell you exactly what to do.

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QUOTE (DJ24966 @ Dec 15 2008, 20:22)
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After I add the file to the command line and start the game, it reverts back to default settings and still runs like sh*t. I could be doing something wrong, since your instructions are a bit confusing.

Whats your vram, and whats your specs?. Ill tell you exactly what to do.

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Ok, go ingame, set your res to 800x600 ingame. Set everythign else to how you want it, then tell me the mem usage.

ex. 500/506 or whatever. After you post that ill post what you should have in commandline.txt.
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QUOTE (MonkeyMhz @ Dec 15 2008, 20:25)
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After I add the file to the command line and start the game, it reverts back to default settings and still runs like sh*t. I could be doing something wrong, since your instructions are a bit confusing.

Whats your vram, and whats your specs?. Ill tell you exactly what to do.

HIS Radeon HD 3850 512MB

Ok, go ingame, set your res to 800x600 ingame. Set everythign else to how you want it, then tell me the mem usage.

ex. 500/506 or whatever. After you post that ill post what you should have in commandline.txt.

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Ok thats close enough so in your commandline.txt you should have

-height 900 -width 1400 -availablevidmem 1.0

or put whatever res you want with the -height and -width, do height first.

Now after you save that in the commandline.txt start the game up, check the graphic options, and it should have the same settings as before and the res should say 800x600 but you will be running in a higher res.

And please make sure you dont have -nomemrestrict or -norestrict bound to your shortcut. Or else that will ruin this, and it wont work.

*To test to make sure you don't have any un restrictions go in game without anything in the commandline.txt, and make sure it doesn't let you go over your memory limit.

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QUOTE (MonkeyMhz @ Dec 15 2008, 20:16)
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Epic topic. Now this is the kind of stuff im going into!!!!

Praise the comunity, always better than developers, that is gamer to gamers!

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Monkey did you managed to do anything about the ugly pixelated shadows? Its like hell to play with it at times like 11 AM, all game is pixelated.

Still experimenting. I got the shadows to have a quick cutoff, but that looked weird. They all cut off like 1 meter infront of your character. Ill keep you all updated. After I figure out all the stuff I can Ill add it in my app. Im also a bit busy right now, work, game engine, GTAIV program + i wanna play gtaiv too, lol.

So you are the guy woking on the tweak app? Nice to hear.

Wish i could do something, but unfortunally im only programming now at business code on .net.

Thanks for the effort.
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I had to do some manual tweaking with the multiplier to get the right value for vram.
For example using my direct vram value (512 MB) in the ratio was sending my graphics settings into the red (It was something like 347 MB out of 330 MB).

I'm worried this will cause some texture pop-in problems, so I just manually tweaked the multiplier until it was slightly above the value on the graphics menu (Now shows 347 MB out of 352 MB).
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so you set the ingame options to 800x600 then exit the game, and in commandline.txt type your desired resolution?? for example

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-height 768 -width 1024 -availablevidmem 0.485


so that means i have exactly 238MB but every time the game loads up its in 1024x768 and saying warning, settings are too high

there isn't enough memory to go up a resolution from 800x600, but because of the 1024x768 in the commandline, the game is loading up with that resolution anyway, any ideas?
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QUOTE (MonkeyMhz @ Dec 15 2008, 20:32)
Ok thats close enough so in your commandline.txt you should have

-height 900 -width 1400 -availablevidmem 1.0

or put whatever res you want with the -height and -width, do height first.

Now after you save that in the commandline.txt start the game up, check the graphic options, and it should have the same settings as before and the res should say 800x600 but you will be running in a higher res.

And please make sure you dont have -nomemrestrict or -norestrict bound to your shortcut. Or else that will ruin this, and it wont work.

*To test to make sure you don't have any un restrictions go in game without anything in the commandline.txt, and make sure it doesn't let you go over your memory limit.

if he have 512 and the -availablevidmem 1.0 is at, and with with definated height and weight it will not simply turn over to the maps related to the override res?

The only thing different is the amount of memory game says it need "extra" for each resolution so this is what goes for scaling and this way you are forcing to not happen?
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If your getting D3D error when doing this, its because of wrong refreshrate. Man this game cant do anything on its own lol.

At step 2, set 800x600 at a specific refreshrate ,that your monitor can also support at your desired resolution you enter at step 3 into the commandline. Like 60Hz or something. Gta has multiple choices of 800x600 each at a different refreshrate. Might as well.. also be sure the resolution is correct.
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Here is what it did when I restarted game after applying command line.

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QUOTE (r0b @ Dec 15 2008, 20:36)
so you set the ingame options to 800x600 then exit the game, and in commandline.txt type your desired resolution?? for example

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-height 768 -width 1024 -availablevidmem 0.485


so that means i have exactly 238MB but every time the game loads up its in 1024x768 and saying warning, settings are too high

there isn't enough memory to go up a resolution from 800x600, but because of the 1024x768 in the commandline, the game is loading up with that resolution anyway, any ideas?

Yea, you got it. Your just tricking the GTAIV system to thinking you don't have enough memory to move your res up, so really its moving the res up forcefully but in game it cant so it leaves you with the reflection maps of the 800x600 setting.
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i have done everything like u said . but , when i change the -height -weight in commandline , ill get the resolution also in the game's options menu.

i dont use any -NOrestriction commands or so.

i did it about 4 times and there is still no way that in the game stays 800x600

is there a possibility that theres a mistake in the tutorial ? (no offence fella , im thankfull for ur effort) but it simply dont work as ur saying
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QUOTE (DJ24966 @ Dec 15 2008, 20:39)
Here is what it did when I restarted game after applying command line.

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Ok, You did it, however you probably want that in game to say 800x600. Its cuz GTAIV does allow a little memory *space* in how much you can go over, limit your card a bit more perhaps -availablevidmem 0.95 or keep inching it down till your in game res doesn't pop over 800x600 or whatever you set it to.

So change that back to 800x600, exit the game. Go into the commandline.txt and set it to 0.95 for availablevidmem, then restart and see if it still pops over. If so try 0.90
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SIR THANK YOU !!! YOU MADE MY DAY !!!

i followed the instructions (YOU WROTE THEM VERY NICELY - EASY TO FOLLOW IF YOU'RE NOT A COMPLETE IDIOT)

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i have a q6600 @ 2.4 ghz, a geforce 8600gt with 512 mb ram, 4 gigs of ram, running on xp pro sp3...

i nearly completed the game but for the last 3 days i didn't play it, as i was
playing on a 1024 x 768 resolution with view distance at 20, shadows at 4 and detail distance + vehicle density at
around 30,
texture quality medium, render quality high
and i barely got my average ~20fps... well, while doing regular missions / completing the storyline that wasnt
too much of a problem to mme.. but as soon i wanted to go on some rampage, that low fps really pissed me off...

then, DEAR SIR, i tried you rinstructions!!!!

NOW I AM PLAYIN AT SOME NICE 1280 x 1024, with the same texture and render quality, but with
draw distance @ 30, shadows @ 8 and detail + vehicle density @ 70.....

AND I'M CONSTANTLY AT ~ 27-30 FPS !!! HUGE BOOST FOR ME !!! AND I DON'T NOTICE ANY CHANGES IN QUALITY AT ALL !!

now i can even turn on the motion blur, without getting EYE CANCER !!!! motion blur @ 1024x768 SUCKED !!

but now i can actually use it !!!

SIR !! THANK YOU !!! YOU MADE MY DAY !!! f*ck COCKSTAR !!! i'd love to get myself a refund and give the money
to YOU lol as now i'm able to fully enjoy the game, thanks to your instructions!!

guys, you should DEFINITELY give this one a try, just follow instructions step by step..

i'd like to know about some results with a >8800+ card, as i'm gonna get myself a new gpu soon....


anyhow THANK YOU SIR !!!
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After doing this, you won't be able to access your graphics menu anymore.
When you try to exit the screen it should ask "Do you want to apply settings?" If you say No, you get stuck in an infinite loop.

Which is why he told you to set everything before applying this 'tweak'.
A buggy graphics menu means it's working.
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QUOTE (bukkit @ Dec 15 2008, 20:43)
i have done everything like u said . but , when i change the -height -weight in commandline , ill get the resolution also in the game's options menu.

Maybe you should set the width instead of weight. smile.gif
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