[ModelingMan]

QUOTE (Claude GTA3 @ Apr 13 2008, 23:13)

Oh, and why do alphas come out all scrambled up?

QUOTE (ModelingMan @ Mar 25 2008, 18:32)

QUOTE (simkas @ Mar 24 2008, 16:35) The alphas of textures in the converted txd's are all messed up. This is due to a DXT5 compressed texture being read as a DXT3...

[Classique Motors]

Hmm well I have no knowledge of MS DOS so if someone could get me started as of what to type that would be great

Here is where I placed the program. Now how do I start it up in MS DOS??

CODE

C:\dffxbox2pc\dffxbox2pc.exe

Thanks to anyone that helps!!

[AK-73]

QUOTE (Classique Motors @ May 10 2008, 02:36)

Hmm well I have no knowledge of MS DOS so if someone could get me started as of what to type that would be great  Here is where I placed the program. Now how do I start it up in MS DOS?? CODE C:\dffxbox2pc\dffxbox2pc.exe Thanks to anyone that helps!!

That depends on which windows os you use. Usually MS-Dos can be found where the other windows tools are, like MS Paint, etc. (Or at least I put it there.)

Copy the link and paste it into the same dir as dffxbox2pc. Then copy the path leading to that directory from your explorer window. Open the properties of the new link (right-click) and paste it as working directory. Now when you double-click the link you should be able to start up MS-DOS in the directory that dffxbox2pc is in.

Now all you need to do is to put all the xbox files that you want to convert into the same directory (don't convert too many at once). Then type in

dffxbox2pc *

and watch the conversion process start.

Alex

[one2fwee4]

QUOTE (modelingman)

The vehicles don't need to be re-exported, simple case of changing the file version of both the DFF and TXD in RWAnalyze.

Oh, i had been making complete new txds and it had been taking ages

So, how do I do this? and what file version do I change it to (for gta3) - rw 3.3? or what / how?

QUOTE (ModelingMan @ Mar 25 2008, 17:32)

QUOTE (simkas @ Mar 24 2008, 16:35) The alphas of textures in the converted txd's are all messed up. This is due to a DXT5 compressed texture being read as a DXT3...

Is there any way to fix this?

This post has been edited by one2fwee4 on Thursday, May 15 2008, 21:46

[AK-73]

QUOTE (one2fwee4 @ May 15 2008, 22:37)

QUOTE (modelingman) The vehicles don't need to be re-exported, simple case of changing the file version of both the DFF and TXD in RWAnalyze. Oh, i had been making complete new txds and it had been taking ages So, how do I do this? and what file version do I change it to (for gta3) - rw 3.3? or what / how? QUOTE (ModelingMan @ Mar 25 2008, 17:32) QUOTE (simkas @ Mar 24 2008, 16:35) The alphas of textures in the converted txd's are all messed up. This is due to a DXT5 compressed texture being read as a DXT3... Is there any way to fix this?

Xbox Vehicles don't have reflections by default though.

Yeah, it should be very easy to fix. I just didn't get around to doing it. I'll try to fix it over the weekend. If I don't, please remember me on Tuesday.

Alex

[one2fwee4]

Hmm yes, I don't really know what I'm doing converting them, but it is sort of working so far... :S:S:S There is no real tutorial on this and if you can just change the version in rwanalyse then that seems much easier but i dunno about that.

Reflections i dunno about - i've just been importing into gmax and then exporting again cos i dunno anything about moddling. It seems to work sort of though - except it doesn't like it for lots of them (except gang cars and the banshee so far) cos they have the line MMC = true and it doesn't like that cos when exporting it throws and error about the equals so i just got rid of that line and it worked.

One thing that's confusing though is that in GGMM they show up without all their panels attatched, but they are fine in game. This could be cos I haven't strictly edited the model correctly in gmax (infact all it was was select all and export).

Also some cars do not show up always - sometimes they have to load or something and it's random whether they will show up. The ambulance and bobcat have now decided to stop working for some reason even though they were working before. Also when they were working their engine texture wouldn't display for some reason.

The kuruma's engine texture won't display anymore even though it did before and I haven't changed anything.

Also one time and engine texture did load on a vehicle midway through the game (but then disappeared again when i looked away and looked back :S strange).

So yes it's all a bit odd but then probably a lot of it is cos I dunno how to convert the models properly.


Oh yes also, should I be editing GTA3.IMG or TXD.IMG for the textures? So far I have been replacing both but why are there even two sets of files? It seems a bit confusing and odd. What are each for?

What format should the texures be in also? Should they be compressed or is not does it matter if 32, 16 or 8 bit ? Cos the game keeps randomly crashing and I am thinking maybe it doesn't like txds that are too big? or lots of big txds. It seems to work with the compressed or 32 bit textures, but could that also be what is causing it to crash ? or could that be the models that aren't showing at the moment (ambulance and bobcat).

How can i convert txds using rwanalyse? Cos if you can get the alphas dxt5 thing fixed it would be a lot better than exporting everything and reimporting.





AK-73: Here is something that definately is a problem though - out of the cars I have tried, I cannot import the Perrenial, Taxi or Police Car to gmax for some reason.
I can give you a list of errors it gives if that is at all helpfull?
The perrenial said something about an unknown string type or something?

This post has been edited by one2fwee4 on Saturday, May 17 2008, 02:44

[ModelingMan]

QUOTE (one2fwee4 @ May 17 2008, 02:30)

Oh yes also, should I be editing GTA3.IMG or TXD.IMG for the textures? So far I have been replacing both but why are there even two sets of files? It seems a bit confusing and odd. What are each for? How can i convert txds using rwanalyse? Cos if you can get the alphas dxt5 thing fixed it would be a lot better than exporting everything and reimporting.

You should delete TXD.IMG and replace the TXD in GTA3.IMG, the game will then regenerate TXD.IMG to be compatible with your graphics card.

Why would the DXT5 compressed textures need fixing? The RenderWare version in III uses Direct3D 8 which supports DXT5 textures. So there's no need for such a "fix".

[one2fwee4]

Erm well for me there is because please can you explain how to convert the txd files using rwanalyse. Otherwise, I have to export the txd files using txdworkshop, and of course it does not like them and so exports the strange looking "missread" ones.

And also there is need for a fix if the perrenial, taxi and police car (and most probably others that I haven't tried yet) cannot be imported into gmax.

This post has been edited by one2fwee4 on Saturday, May 17 2008, 13:39

[AK-73]

QUOTE (one2fwee4 @ May 17 2008, 14:35)

Erm well for me there is because please can you explain how to convert the txd files using rwanalyse. Otherwise, I have to export the txd files using txdworkshop, and of course it does not like them and so exports the strange looking "missread" ones. And also there is need for a fix if the perrenial, taxi and police car (and most probably others that I haven't tried yet) cannot be imported into gmax.

Forgot about it, will try to code an update tonight, fixing the apparent alpha problem. As for the taxi, etc problem - are you sure you have the latest version? Simkas reported a similar problem some time ago (see previous posts in this topic) and the new version fixed it.

Alex

[one2fwee4]

Well I downloaded the version in the first post of this topic about a week ago, so unless the link is wrong or not updated then I have the latest? :S I don't know but even the perrenial it has fits about.

[AK-73]

Make sure you got v0.2. The mirror link on the first page probably has never been updated to v0.2.

With v0.2 I have been able to import the police car iirc.

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QUOTE (ModelingMan @ May 17 2008, 03:44)

Why would the DXT5 compressed textures need fixing? The RenderWare version in III uses Direct3D 8 which supports DXT5 textures. So there's no need for such a "fix".

So what is the following all about?

QUOTE (simkas @ Mar 24 2008, 16:35)

The alphas of textures in the converted txd's are all messed up.

[ModelingMan]

QUOTE (AK-73 @ May 21 2008, 17:06)

QUOTE (ModelingMan @ May 17 2008, 03:44) Why would the DXT5 compressed textures need fixing? The RenderWare version in III uses Direct3D 8 which supports DXT5 textures. So there's no need for such a "fix". So what is the following all about? QUOTE (simkas @ Mar 24 2008, 16:35) The alphas of textures in the converted txd's are all messed up.

http://ajito.dyndns.org/Screenshots/DXT5Compression.jpg

The above screenshot demonstrates a DXT5 compressed texture working in VC. The texture itself will appear "corrupt" in TXDWorkshop, but that's because it's reading the alpha like a DXT3 compressed texture. If you save a TXD containing a DXT5 texture in TXDWorkshop it'll be saved with the DXT3 flag which leads to it being "corrupted" ingame. You can easily change the flag by hand using a hex editor.

[AK-73]

Ah, that lifts the confusion because alphas seemed to be working pretty fine with me on the few tests I had done. Thanks.

Alex

[OnePiece]

QUOTE (AK-73 @ May 13 2008, 20:50)

QUOTE (Classique Motors @ May 10 2008, 02:36) Hmm well I have no knowledge of MS DOS so if someone could get me started as of what to type that would be great  Here is where I placed the program. Now how do I start it up in MS DOS?? CODE C:\dffxbox2pc\dffxbox2pc.exe Thanks to anyone that helps!! That depends on which windows os you use. Usually MS-Dos can be found where the other windows tools are, like MS Paint, etc. (Or at least I put it there.) Copy the link and paste it into the same dir as dffxbox2pc. Then copy the path leading to that directory from your explorer window. Open the properties of the new link (right-click) and paste it as working directory. Now when you double-click the link you should be able to start up MS-DOS in the directory that dffxbox2pc is in. Now all you need to do is to put all the xbox files that you want to convert into the same directory (don't convert too many at once). Then type in dffxbox2pc * and watch the conversion process start. Alex

Tried that, still doesn't work. It creates the output file but its only 1kb and doesn't import.

[AK-73]

It is known to work on player.dff. Try it with that file alone and see if it works.

CODE

dffxbox2pc player.dff

Alex

[Black Ghost]

nvm

This post has been edited by Black Ghost on Friday, Jun 20 2008, 10:37

[atfburner]

QUOTE (AK-73 @ Feb 25 2008, 15:14)

Anyway I always intended to include an option for specifying the target file version but never got around implementing the option itself.

put me down as another looking foward to next version with alpha flag fix aswell

[AK-73]

QUOTE (atfburner @ Jun 23 2008, 22:16)

QUOTE (AK-73 @ Feb 25 2008, 15:14) Anyway I always intended to include an option for specifying the target file version but never got around implementing the option itself. put me down as another looking foward to next version with alpha flag fix aswell

I thought the problem was more with txdworkshop?

Alex

[atfburner]

hmm i cant get an alpha to preview or export correctly
after lots of tests

[AK-73]

QUOTE (atfburner @ Jun 25 2008, 01:17)

hmm i cant get an alpha to preview or export correctly after lots of tests

Well, maybe I can convert it differently, I'll have to look at it.

Alex