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GTA Phreak  
Posted: Nov 22 2007, 16:00
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This trick came up on a different thread: http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=280997&st=120&#
But I think it deserves it's own thread.

Here's how it works:

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Posted: Nov 22 2007, 16:21
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that is wicked, I'm gonna try it out
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Posted: Nov 22 2007, 17:32
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It's funny because the camera holds it's uniqueness tounge.gif
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Posted: Nov 22 2007, 18:18
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Very nice biggrin.gif
I see that you don't have to hold your breath and also that you got close to the Navy base in your first dive but were you close enough to have got any wanted stars? Have you tried going in to the Navy base?

If you did get the stars then all the police, FBI & soldiers would have fun trying to catch you while you were underwater - although it could be tricky for you when you surfaced if you're only in the hovercraft

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Posted: Nov 22 2007, 18:27
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Interesting..looks like fun and it seems easy enough to do .
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Posted: Nov 23 2007, 00:54
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Nice video Phreak, and great work on getting that other jump to trigger. I never tried from that angle. I kept hoping you'd show one of the underwater features of the chain game, but I suppose that would just add confusion.

BTW, in on of you other videos I noticed your nifty trick of dropping out of the parachute at the last second in order to maintain better control of CJ during his landing. I still forget occasionally, but I'm trying to add that technique to my regular bag of tricks and reflexes. Very cool. Sometimes I forget to comment, but I alway watch your vids for advanced techniques.

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Posted: Nov 23 2007, 01:33
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Tnx for the comments smile.gif

I actually discovered that the 2nd jump worked by accident.
I was using that ridge to quickly glide the Vortex back into the airport for another go, until I accidently hit it a bit too far to the left biggrin.gif

I used a regular save to show it works easily w/o cheats and mods.
But to anyone who wants to find cool stuff in the waters around SA: Do try out one of the chaingame saves, - it has plenty of Vortex'es (Vortices?) spawning too.

As for wanted level around the Naval base, - when you're in a submerged vehicle (goes for "undrowned" vehicles as well) you can go much closer before triggering the wanted level (~ to the entrance of the submarine pens).
Even closer than by swimming underwater, - which is a bit strange dozingoff.gif

Btw. in the Vortex you also need to worry about the Hydra's with a wanted level wink.gif

Unfortunately you can't collect oysters when you're in a vehicle, - you need to be on foot / swimming.
When you exit the Vortex under water, the Vortex drowns (and sinks) and CJ goes swimming. So you can locate the oyster and then exit the Vortex to collect it.

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Posted: Nov 23 2007, 01:41
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I always wanted a submarine in the game but on PS2 I knew I would never be able to get one, thanks for this. biggrin.gif
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bagga rabbit  
Posted: Nov 23 2007, 14:59
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Does it only work with the vortex? What if you used another vehicle on the jump? Like a car or go-cart?
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Posted: Nov 23 2007, 16:18
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With other vehicles the jump camera will end when you hit the water (vehicle drowns).
You could try with a boat, - but I don't think they can trigger a unique jump.

I have no idea why the Vortex submerges after some distance.
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Posted: Nov 23 2007, 17:23
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Vortex can go on land or sea,right? What if you used "cars can drive on water" cheat code? Wonder if the game would read the car like it does the Vortex?
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Posted: Nov 23 2007, 19:05
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QUOTE (bagga rabbit @ Nov 23 2007, 18:23)
Vortex can go on land or sea,right? What if you used "cars can drive on water" cheat code? Wonder if the game would read the car like it does the Vortex?

SA has "drive cars on water" cheat ? notify.gif notify.gif
Isn't that just for Vice City ?
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Posted: Nov 23 2007, 19:09
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QUOTE (Bad~Boy#17 @ Nov 23 2007, 14:05)
QUOTE (bagga rabbit @ Nov 23 2007, 18:23)
Vortex can go on land or sea,right? What if you used "cars can drive on water" cheat code? Wonder if the game would read the car like it does the Vortex?

SA has "drive cars on water" cheat ? notify.gif notify.gif
Isn't that just for Vice City ?

With a code-disc it can be done..it's been "ported" over.EDIT..and there is a button cheat for PS2 "drive on water". right R2 circle R1 L2 square R1 R2

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Posted: Nov 23 2007, 21:52
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QUOTE (GTA Phreak @ Nov 23 2007, 09:18)
With other vehicles the jump camera will end when you hit the water (vehicle drowns).
You could try with a boat, - but I don't think they can trigger a unique jump.

I have no idea why the Vortex submerges after some distance.

I spent most of one night trying to create a jump specifically to test whether or not a boat could trigger a unique stunt jump. No matter what I tried, I couldn't trigger the slo-mo camera. I even teleported a boat directly above a very large starting zone and dropped straight through it - didn't work. However, this trick did work with an NRG or Vortex so I'm sure the jump was set up correctly.

I've noticed the Vortex has a nasty habit of sinking when CJ isn't looking at it. That's one reason I thought getting out of sight of the camera might help the sinking process. I've learned to keep the Vortex very close and hopefully in view whenever I use it to collect oysters. Frequently when I return I will find my Vortex half sunk when it wasn't far away at all.
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Posted: Nov 24 2007, 01:48
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QUOTE (bagga rabbit @ Nov 24 2007, 03:23)
Vortex can go on land or sea,right? What if you used "cars can drive on water" cheat code? Wonder if the game would read the car like it does the Vortex?

I think the game reads the vortex as a plane...
1- if it catches fire, it blows up like 5 times, like a plane.
2- when i had a 5 star wanted level, i was driving the vortex on the water, and hydras started shooting rockets at me, hydras only shoot rockets at you when your in a plane...
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Posted: Nov 24 2007, 02:02
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Yes it gets chased by Hydra's and does provide a complimentary parachute (if you get out high enough in the air and have >= 40% flying skill).
However it adds to driving skill not flying skill (even while flying it).
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Posted: Nov 24 2007, 02:31
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The vortex is an interesting vehicle since the game considers it both a plane and a car. Which is why you can trigger a unique jump but not lose the slow-mo camera angle because it doesn't offically land, until it runs into something solid. Lots of potential for glitches with that thing. I noticed once when I took the one from the desert and drove it to San Fierro, all the way through SF only country vehicles were spawning. The same road trains, waltons and freeways, which you never see in downtown SF.

I've been playing around with cars fly, cars float, boats fly cheats and can't make much happen. It's too hard to make a flying car land on the water from the slow-mo camera, it goes way too far too fast and you just can't see it anymore. Boat just wont trigger a unique jump. I did get the firetruck to land out of view but it sank, It must of dived head on into the water. I have a few more ideas I'm going to try though.
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Posted: Nov 24 2007, 20:04
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Posted: Nov 24 2007, 22:07
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QUOTE (CJsports @ Nov 24 2007, 15:04)
Its a hovercraft! dozingoff.gif

Well done!
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Posted: Nov 30 2007, 16:59
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I'm trying to fix the dead links in my walk-throughs for the first time in
about a year--give me a break with all the things you're finding.

A happy congratulations for all the things you're finding lately tounge.gif !
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