[ThePinkFloydSound]

QUOTE (darthYENIK @ Tuesday, May 15 2012, 08:29)

I'm a huge Microsoft critic when it comes to XBL. And I used to have a problem paying for online multiplayer, being that I was introduced to it on PC where it's free for the average user and game. But on Xbox, you're almost guarantied a good experience. The peace of mind in knowing that you'll be on a reliable server, without hackers, or asshole mods that boot you if you kill them, is well worth $50-$60 a year. f*ck MS points, or Microsofts practical ignoring of long time members and the ridiculous prices of some of the sh*t they sell on their marketplace, but I'm cool with the gold membership.

That may change when MS phase out MS Points at the end of the year.

[Piperka]

QUOTE (Voodoo @ Tuesday, May 15 2012, 20:50)

QUOTE (Piperka @ Tuesday, May 15 2012, 00:38) Party/friend chat sucks on Xbox, the mic's cut out and it's really slow. That may have something to do with your location, the quality of your connection or your router settings. Connections to Australia have always been laggy for me. The party system has been a little spotty this year but generally we don't have many problems with it.

I just bought a new modem, because previously I had a sh*tty telstra one that made my nat type strict on everything except MW2, and now everything works perfectly on my PS3 and Xbox 360 so I'd imagine the party chat on my Xbox won't be so sh*tty now. Great investment!

[TheGreatGig23]

QUOTE (ThePinkFloydSound @ Tuesday, May 15 2012, 14:19)

That may change when MS phase out MS Points at the end of the year.

What's the reasoning behind that, may I ask?

[Butters 2011]

QUOTE (TheGreatGig23 @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 23:31)

QUOTE (ThePinkFloydSound @ Tuesday, May 15 2012, 14:19) That may change when MS phase out MS Points at the end of the year. What's the reasoning behind that, may I ask?

Not sure if it was on here or another site, but yeah, they changing it all into real payments now...I believe? Kind of 50/50 on this whole idea though. One side thinks it will make the whole process much easier, but then the other side of me realises that it only accepts credit cards to make purchases, or it did when I had my 360.

[Seddo]

Are MS actually going through with the idea of phasing MSP out, thought it was still rumours.

If they do go with real currency then they'll no doubt still carry one with pre-paid cards, no way they'll alienate a massive chunk of their customers and start forcing them to use credit cards.

[Butters 2011]

QUOTE (Seddo @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 23:47)

no way they'll alienate a massive chunk of their customers and start forcing them to use credit cards.

Especially when you're dealing with people trusting to use their credit cards to purchase stuff. I know it seems slightly extreme, but have a look at what happened when Sony got hacked, and people had their information stolen. People don't forget stuff like that too easily. I'm only up for this idea if they start to let people use their debit cards instead, and make it so it deletes your information as soon as you have made the purchase.

[Kajun]

I'm sure they're gonna sell cash cards for XBL like Apple does for iTunes.

[vertical limit]

Pre-paid is always better! At least for me it is.

[darthYENIK]

I like pre-paid, too, but I also use a credit card. I live a dangerous life.

[mincemate003]

I love getting cheap MS points cards, so I hope they keep prepaid cards around. However, I also love getting free points from Xbox Live rewards, and other offers- are they totally going to cancel these things? Would be unfortunate if they did.

[Piperka]

I love the 2 months of live for $2 deal!

[trip]

QUOTE (Seddo @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:47)

Are MS actually going through with the idea of phasing MSP out, thought it was still rumours. If they do go with real currency then they'll no doubt still carry one with pre-paid cards, no way they'll alienate a massive chunk of their customers and start forcing them to use credit cards.

Hey ya know what? I was thinking all sorts of the same sh*t yesterday.

As much as I want them to go to a straight system, I realized they might be dicking over the little guys. I don't understand their current system with how they divya out bonus points and sh*t like that. But, when thinking about it - it sounds like they will have to do away with some of their specials and stuff. You know - real money equals real money, and it isn't like an arcade that uses tokens and can offer 2 for 1 play weekends anymore.

Curious to see if and how this plays out.

[Slamman]

I mentioned the MS Points thing over a month ago, yes, it's more then likely it's to be phased out for some other method. Since I heard back about even MENTIONING PS here in the MS XBox SHOW YOUR LOVE thread, I may resort to any future Playstation mention within spoiler tags, as I would say, if you prefer not to hear or see it, avoid it, you have your own free will and I have mine as well. I mention PS in the PS thread, I even edit my last post there if there's more info, or here, anywhere it's not bumped periodically

[Voodoo]

QUOTE (Slamman @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 23:21)

Since I heard back about even MENTIONING PS here in the MS XBox SHOW YOUR LOVE thread, I may resort to any future Playstation mention within spoiler tags, as I would say, if you prefer not to hear or see it, avoid it, you have your own free will and I have mine as well. I mention PS in the PS thread, I even edit my last post there if there's more info, or here, anywhere it's not bumped periodically

Jesus, give it a rest. You're worse than an old woman.

[tms_junk]

Im not to fussed when it comes to phasing out MS points, paying for every item individually rather than having to buy more points then i need is good for me.

But i can also understand some peoples worries about putting credit card details online, but im sure Microsoft will work a way around it.

[ccrogers15]

QUOTE (Butters 2011 @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 23:52)

QUOTE (Seddo @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 23:47) no way they'll alienate a massive chunk of their customers and start forcing them to use credit cards. Especially when you're dealing with people trusting to use their credit cards to purchase stuff. I know it seems slightly extreme, but have a look at what happened when Sony got hacked, and people had their information stolen. People don't forget stuff like that too easily. I'm only up for this idea if they start to let people use their debit cards instead, and make it so it deletes your information as soon as you have made the purchase.

lol then remember not even a year after the PSN came back online from the hacks sony introduced the Playstation Credit Card. LOL

[trip]

QUOTE (tms_junk @ Thursday, May 17 2012, 08:31)

Im not to fussed when it comes to phasing out MS points, paying for every item individually rather than having to buy more points then i need is good for me. But i can also understand some peoples worries about putting credit card details online, but im sure Microsoft will work a way around it.

I don't really mind having my credit card info stored out there on the internet. I've had my credit info stolen twice(so has my wife). All it really boils down to is a hassle of a locked account while the credit card company does their investigation. It's not like you lose any money or credit standing if you are the victim of credit card theft.

The only danger I have with my credit card tied to my MS account is spontaneous purchases. Tues I didn't pick up MP3 like I should have and I wanted something new and different to play. So I ended up downloading COD MW3 for like 60 bucks. I can't see me playing it much more than that one night. So I kind of just threw away 60 bucks because it was just too easy.

[darthYENIK]

Yeah, the temptation is the dangerous part. It'll be more dangerous when they get rid of MS points, because that's one barrier that usually stops me from buying all sorts of crap I wont care about 5 minutes after buying it. It took me like 3 years to finally decide to buy some clothes for my avatar, and even then it was points from rewards, and left overs from buying bulk MS points. But my avatar looks awesome in Anaheim Ducks and Angels gear, even if I'm the only one that cares or really sees it, because I disabled my online status. Without MS points, I'd probably buy the $5 Boba Fett or Stormtrooper costumes.

[Butters 2011]

QUOTE (darthYENIK @ Friday, May 18 2012, 20:58)

Yeah, the temptation is the dangerous part. It'll be more dangerous when they get rid of MS points, because that's one barrier that usually stops me from buying all sorts of crap I wont care about 5 minutes after buying it.

So true, and I bet that's the case for 90% of us here. If I did happen to have had a credit card stored on my 360 account, I'd have regretted it within a couple of weeks, the amount of random crap I wanted to download. At least with having to go to a shop and buy the points, it meant having to really think about what was worth the money and what wasn't.

[trip]

QUOTE (Butters 2011 @ Friday, May 18 2012, 18:11)

QUOTE (darthYENIK @ Friday, May 18 2012, 20:58) Yeah, the temptation is the dangerous part.  It'll be more dangerous when they get rid of MS points, because that's one barrier that usually stops me from buying all sorts of crap I wont care about 5 minutes after buying it. So true, and I bet that's the case for 90% of us here. If I did happen to have had a credit card stored on my 360 account, I'd have regretted it within a couple of weeks, the amount of random crap I wanted to download. At least with having to go to a shop and buy the points, it meant having to really think about what was worth the money and what wasn't.

Don't even get me started. Between my beer drinking at night, and my wife not knowing that MS points equals real money - I have sh*t like Wolfenstein3D, DigDug, Streets of Rage...the list of unplayed crap goes on and on. Oh and she is also the one for outfitting my avatar. When there are no points left it is just too easy to say 'yeah, add another crapload of points'.