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lesfleanut  
Posted: Friday, Jul 6 2007, 08:50
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All models will be flash based (probably up to 36GB)?

thats a lose right there. the tech is still to expensive for large ammounts of space.

I really don't think so, prices on the consumer end of flash have dropped dramatically in only the last 5-6 months.... I can only imagine that apple will be getting a steep discount in their mass volume purchases as well. Tech analysts are quoting that the 4 gig iphone costs apple only $20USD more to produce than the 8 gig, that puts 4 gigs of flash at 20 dollars to apple.

As far as high capacity goes, I really don't think they will shun the large population of digital music collectors. I'm betting they release two separate models of the ipod, one with a HD drive and one with flash. I'll be buying the flash one, despite my "need" for capacity. I'm a clumsy f*ck and I really don't trust any kind of hard drive to be carried around with me all day.
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Last:

1.33 GHz G4 iBook
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Current:

2.0 Ghz Core 2 Duo Macbook
1 GB ram
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Future:

Top line 15" Macbook Pro


Extras:

Second Gen iPod mini 4GB upgraded to 8GB flash memory
Currently trying to think of something good to have engraved on a 30GB iPod video.


The iBook lives with my girlfriend now. I love my macs and the Pro will be bought as soon as I've paid for my new car.
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QUOTE (lesfleanut @ Jul 6 2007, 02:50)
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All models will be flash based (probably up to 36GB)?

thats a lose right there. the tech is still to expensive for large ammounts of space.

I really don't think so, prices on the consumer end of flash have dropped dramatically in only the last 5-6 months.... I can only imagine that apple will be getting a steep discount in their mass volume purchases as well. Tech analysts are quoting that the 4 gig iphone costs apple only $20USD more to produce than the 8 gig, that puts 4 gigs of flash at 20 dollars to apple.

4 gig SD card, 38 bucks

32 gig ssd, still 500 bucks


even if they load up on a pile of the 20 dollar 4g flash chips, its still 160 bucks for the disk space alone, for the 32 gig. if they get half price on the SSD, its still 250. to match the 80, you might as well e-bay an old 80 giger
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Posted: Saturday, Jul 7 2007, 04:17
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You have to take into account that those are at consumer price, and Apple would be buying them at factory price.
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QUOTE (Jonny Tightlips @ Jul 7 2007, 00:17)
You have to take into account that those are at consumer price, and Apple would be buying them at factory price.

They'd still be expensive, and you know how Apple likes to keep their prices low.
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In near future getting:

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Zak.  
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QUOTE (Sauron. @ Jul 6 2007, 23:25)
In near future getting:

Macbook
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* 120GB hard drive1
* Double-layer SuperDrive

iPod Video 80gb.

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QUOTE (Jonny Tightlips @ Jul 7 2007, 03:28)
QUOTE (Sauron. @ Jul 6 2007, 23:25)
In near future getting:

Macbook
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    * 1GB memory
    * 120GB hard drive1
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iPod Video 80gb.

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f*ck the iPod. Get REAL internet. I swear its so much better. cool.gif

way to kill the f*cking thread Zak tounge.gif

In other news, 27 days until I get my Macbook Pro. biggrin.gif
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Turns out I might be getting a Macbook sooner than expected. I just got $900 worth of tax back from the government, which means I will probably grab one in the next few weeks <:D
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QUOTE (Sauron. @ Jul 8 2007, 01:35)
Turns out I might be getting a Macbook sooner than expected. I just got $900 worth of tax back from the government, which means I will probably grab one in the next few weeks <:D

sh*t man, thats awesome. Getting any extras, or does that money give you just enough for what you listed?
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My setup:

Power Macintosh G3 Blue and White 400mhz
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120gb HD
Mac OS X 10.4.10 (fully supported, so no xpostfacto)
4+1 USB 2.0 PCI card
ATI Rage 128 16mb VRAM (stock)
Apple 15" Studio LCD (blueberry)
Bluetooth 2.0+EDR USB stick (my latest upgrade. really nice)

planned upgrades:

-1gb of RAM (I need 4x 256mb PC100s. right now I have 4x128mb)
ATA-100 card to make my hard drive come alive
ATI Radeon 9200 PCI gfx card (128mb VRAM)
Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard
and when I get some cash, a ZIF upgrade card. not the 1ghz G4 sonnet sells, that underclocks your bus to 66mhz. I want either a 1ghz or 1.1ghz G3 that powerlogix sells/sold.

iPod:

-4th gen U2 iPod (without the colour screen), 20gb HD.

I really want to get a vodpod, since I am watching more and more videos.

oh yeah, what's with PC Chat being renamed Tech & PC Chat? and WD&P renamed Web Design/Programming?

oh yeah, in 2 days, I should have my 500mhz icebook (iBook G3 dual USB), to replace my dead pismo, which should bring in more than what I paid for it on eBay. So excited biggrin.gif

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Posted: Sunday, Jul 8 2007, 17:35
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This might sound a silly question, and to seasoned mac heads it will be,

But, what sort of hardware specs does mac os support?

I'm considering mac, but the price of a mac pro pushes that away from me, and the mac mini isn't exactly upgradeable, as is the same with the iMac,

so what are mac options for hardware builders?
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Posted: Sunday, Jul 8 2007, 21:29
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QUOTE (stretch. @ Jul 8 2007, 12:35)
This might sound a silly question, and to seasoned mac heads it will be,

But, what sort of hardware specs does mac os support?

I'm considering mac, but the price of a mac pro pushes that away from me, and the mac mini isn't exactly upgradeable, as is the same with the iMac,

so what are mac options for hardware builders?

to run OSx86 (which is illegal), you need a intel processor that supports either SSE2 or SSE3, which are instruction sets. I don't know when it started, but my mother's toshiba Satellite 1135-S125 is from 2002-2003 (don't remember when she got it) has a 1.8ghz celeron, and it supports SSE2. I think you will be ok with a celeron, as OS X will just see it as a core solo.

or, you could go out and get a B&W G3. From 1999, but fully support Mac OS X Tiger. I got mine for $60 shipped, and they are flodded on ebay. A good, cheap OS X box.

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IIRC osx86 has a wiki page with all the parts that work with their project. Search google, and make sure you don't stray from that list. Their forum is flooded with broken audio/network/video/ect threads. It's a good solution if you build a PC specifically for osx86, otherwise it's just kind of luck of the draw with which machines it will work with. I'd be interested to see which (if any) notebooks will work flawlessly on osx86, so if you do decide to research this please post back on that matter.


EDIT: This is what I'm talking about.

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Posted: Monday, Jul 9 2007, 16:00
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Thanks guys, I'll look into both the g3 and osx86,

have to see how much money the old purse strings will allow for me!

the g3's on ebay range from £21 with like £15 p&p, I think it could stretch that far tounge.gif

Upgradability (if any)? Like Ram, etc. or is it just the ram that's upgradable?
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You could always get the Mac Pro and have that last you a good 6 years or so. They are f*cking beasts.
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Holy sh*tbricks, look at this deal on eBay. The seller has a lot of 5-10 of them. If I wasn't saving for a vacation at the end of the month I'd have one of these on my doorstep next week. Of course, the week after that it would be gutted and put in the smallest case I could find.

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iPod comes today. Engraved "Answer? 42" on it. Couldn't fit "Nobody writes jokes in base-13" unfotunately.
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I was thinking about stretching to a cheap G4, stylish and the like, more powerful than the G3, has a tft screen and is much better looking,

either that or a pro.

I've had a look at the osx86 and found that my amd processor is supported, which actually took me by huge surprise, so I'm going to investigate the rest of my computer specs and see if running it on my pc is feasable.

Ebay G4

Or that.
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Me, i don't really want to try OS-X.
System-7 or OS-8...Grrrrowwwlll...
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