[OrionSR]

QUOTE (aFinn @ Sep 6 2008, 02:02)

Do these new files go to same place as the Katie Jumps ipl instructions above? I would guess so, but just making sure before I make my editing.

Yes. Sorry. I suppose I should start writing help files. It doesn't matter where the files go as long they are under the data folder so San Andreas can find them, and you add a reference to that location in gta.dat. However, may as well keep everything together in the same folder. Then you can copy and paste the working IPL lines and modify the filename accordingly.

I had them all loaded at once for a while.

70 Standard Jumps
20 Chain Game Jumps
16 Markers for each jump
1440 Objects

I was surprise the game didn't protest.

I'll update that other message.

[aFinn]

QUOTE (OrionSR @ Sep 6 2008, 12:55)

Yes. Sorry. I suppose I should start writing help files. I'll update that other message.

Thanks a lot. Sorry for all the questions, but since I have never done this before I want to make sure I'll do it the right way so I don't end up reinstalling the game in the end, lol.
Since all this is basic stuff for you, it must be difficult to think how a newbie thinks

[aFinn]

I just put in the ipl files, and it seems to have worked. My game didn't crash and the armory has the extra items, and the jumps show markers.

QUOTE (OrionSR @ Sep 4 2008, 02:38)

The time was reset to just before noon. Katie Jumps 2T *2T has max wanted level set to 0 and lightblue blips marking the jumps.

I just tried the 2T save for the first time, had a rather random route, did 9 jumps, 7 of which I got the bonus. I didn't look, but if the save loads at noon, why did Katie bail after 21.00 on me? Has the bail time been edited on this practise save? I understood from before that she bails out after 6 minutes?

[OrionSR]

QUOTE (aFinn @ Sep 6 2008, 08:50)

I just put in the ipl files, and it seems to have worked. My game didn't crash and the armory has the extra items, and the jumps show markers. QUOTE (OrionSR @ Sep 4 2008, 02:38) The time was reset to just before noon. Katie Jumps 2T *2T has max wanted level set to 0 and lightblue blips marking the jumps. I just tried the 2T save for the first time, had a rather random route, did 9 jumps, 7 of which I got the bonus. I didn't look, but if the save loads at noon, why did Katie bail after 21.00 on me? Has the bail time been edited on this practise save? I understood from before that she bails out after 6 minutes?

On the Training version of the save the date doesn't fail with Katie for 3 minutes, then the 6 minute timer kicks in.

[rubregg]

@aFinn
Hehehe, actually I can very well understand your confusion about the IPLs etc. It's not too long ago that I started to learn about modding and I must have been at least as confused as you. Don't worry, it gets clearer after a while. And don't hesitate to ask.

Having a look here (http://www.gtamodding.com/index.php?title=Item_Placement) might help.

This post has been edited by rubregg on Saturday, Sep 6 2008, 21:31

[aFinn]

QUOTE (OrionSR @ Sep 6 2008, 20:06)

On the Training version of the save the date doesn't fail with Katie for 3 minutes, then the 6 minute timer kicks in.

Ah so! This explains it. Thanks, very good idea to give extra time for practise.
I had second try, this time going for route rather than succession. I did not go back to try again if I missed the bonus. I missed some (too many) bonuses, and I still only managed 13 jumps in 9 minutes, without 4-stars. I suck. Though I did lose time in 2 unsuccesful tries at hospital jump, that I did try 2 times on this go. I can't seem to get Michelle jump, Doherty jump or the stadium jump together. Plus I am having big difficulties with the jump to west from Michelle towards Katie's house.

QUOTE (rubregg @ Sep 7 2008, 00:10)

@aFinn Hehehe, actually I can very well understand your confusion about the IPLs etc. It's not too long ago that I started to learn about modding and I must have been at least as confused as you. Don't worry, it gets clearer after a while. And don't hesitate to ask. Having a look here (http://www.gtamodding.com/index.php?title=Item_Placement) might help.

Thanks rubregg. May I just say you seem like a very nice guy and you are very supportive
As you may have noticed, I am not ashamed to ask. I like to know what I am doing, and I'd rather ask than mess things up.

[rubregg]

QUOTE (aFinn @ Sep 7 2008, 00:05)

Thanks rubregg. May I just say you seem like a very nice guy and you are very supportive

Thanks a lot mate, compliment returned

QUOTE (aFinn @ cont.)

As you may have noticed, I am not ashamed to ask. I like to know what I am doing, and I'd rather ask than mess things up.

Perfect. This is Mission Help after all...


Anyway, here's a little something that came up during save file testing. Outdoor date, sort of.
http://www.isarapix.org/pix80/1220744408.jpg (http://www.isarapix.org/pix80/1220744408.jpg)
She stayed with CJ and got back on the bike when we were back on the shore.

[cacarla]

Alright,

CODE

IPL DATA\MAPS\audiozon.ipl # #  Interiors # SPLASH loadsc4

Orion, this is the details of my gta.dat file. Should i add the katieusj tagline in between the splash and audiozon.ipl by erasing the interiors and Hash marks or just add the usj above the interior line.

@ On topic: the YKBB factory jump is really making me break my head guys. I never trigger the Slo-mo camera in either of the save files(2t and the actual one). I feel that the mistake is definitely on my side but i desperately need help. I've got speed but still the camera doesnt show up. I havent checked the jump markers savefile yet. I'll do that and get back when i'm free. Thanks.

[OrionSR]

Oops, sorry. I had forgotten that one of the tools I tested got rid of my comments in this file. I put those comments back (I think) and disabled all my extra IPLs except for katieusj. Now the end of my gta.dat looks like the code below. It doesn't really matter though. The lines that start with # are not executed, so it wouldn't matter if your code went before or after the comments, or if those lines are missing completely.

CODE

IPL DATA\MAPS\audiozon.ipl # My IPLs #IPL DATA\IPL\pick.ipl #IPL DATA\IPL\enex.ipl #IPL DATA\IPL\jump.ipl #IPL DATA\IPL\cars.ipl # Chain Game IPLs #IPL DATA\chain\armorobj.ipl #IPL DATA\ipl\armorobj.ipl # Jump Zone Objects IPL data\ipl\katieusj.IPL #IPL data\ipl\usj_cg_obj.ipl #IPL data\ipl\usj_sa_start.IPL #IPL data\ipl\usj_sa_land.IPL # #  Interiors # SPLASH loadsc4

[OrionSR]

While I was testing out how the weather changes over time I came up with a couple ideas for new challenges. The ideas are still a bit vague, but might be developed into full fledge Rally events if people show an interest.

Long Distance Dating: 3 minutes each way

What is the furthest destination possible for a successful food date?
How many of the establishments preferred by a girlfriend are within reach if you find a good route?

Example: I was using a Katie Jump Training save with the wanted level disabled and barriers removed, but this should work on any post Yay Ka-Boom Boom save. Katie prefers Diners, usually marked with a milkshake icon. Perhaps this challenge would be better if adapted for Barbara but the notes on difficulty are for Katie.

Katie and Barbara - Diners
Helena and Millie - Restaurants
Michelle and Denise - Bars
*Denise - Fast Food

Diners:
Juniper - close
Pier 69 - close
Tierra Robada (truck stop) - close
Blueberry (bar icon) - moderate
Dillimore (truck stop) - moderate
Fort Carson - moderate
Fort Carson - moderate
Santa Maria Pier - challenging
Redsands Ballpark - challenging
Venturas Steaks (Old Strip) - almost made it
East Beach (LS) - impossible?

Restaurants:
Las Barrancas - largest cow
SF Downtown - adjacent to Zombotech
Rodeo - near Victim
Biffin Bridge Hotel - near Queens hideout
Old Venturas Strip - Vice
Redsands West - Steakhouse (not the diner named Restaurant)

Bars:
LS Disco Bar - Idlewood
SF Disco Bar - Queens
LV Disco Bar - Camel Toe
Ganton - 10 Green Bottles
Garcia - Misty's
North of Ft Carson - Lil Probe Inn (UFO)
Old Venturas Strip - Craw Bar

[OrionSR]

The other idea is also based on test version of the Katie Trainer save with no barriers or wanted level, but I'm working to adapt it for all girlfriends.

Epic Dating Jumps

The main idea is that a food date can be extended to 12 minutes if you make a stop for food at the 3 minute mark. It doesn't matter if the girl likes the food since this is a failed date mission anyway.

How many of the specified unique jumps can be completed within the time allowed? The jumps are chosen to be in different areas of the map and easy to score with a passenger. The challenge is route planning, not difficult jumps. Details can be adjusted.

Jump Map by dark52 (http://faqs.darkspyro.net/img/grand_theft_auto_sa_jumps.png)

Challenge: In order to count as a successful run one of the following remote jumps must be completed last.
55 - Arco del Oeste
35 - Panopticon to SF Airport
62 - Emerald Isle North
53 - Gant Bridge (jump sucks)
38 - Cobra Run

Jump List: others are optional
11 - East Beach Ped Overpass
16, 17, or 18 - Mulholland Intersection
19 - Out of Gully in Commerce LS
25 or 26 - Broken Bridge at Palomino Creek
32 - Blueberry Acres Barn Roof
56 - Chicken Jump in Las Payasadas
65 - Creek Hideout Ramp

That's what I had for Katie (Arco for the finisher and not in that order).
I'm considering adding a few more in other sections of the map. Maybe:

02 - LS Dock Pair Southbound
23 - Santa Maria Pier
37 - Angel Pine Ramp
44 - Doherty Transfender
51 - Katie's Diner

This post has been edited by OrionSR on Monday, Sep 8 2008, 23:41

[aFinn]

QUOTE

Jump Map by dark52 (http://faqs.darkspyro.net/img/grand_theft_auto_sa_jumps.png)

This page does not load for me, would it be possible to upload this map to another image hosting service?

[JAJ]

QUOTE (aFinn @ Sep 7 2008, 17:20)

QUOTE Jump Map by dark52 (http://faqs.darkspyro.net/img/grand_theft_auto_sa_jumps.png) This page does not load for me, would it be possible to upload this map to another image hosting service?

Here, try this:
(http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9381/grandtheftautosajumpsbyer2.png)

[rubregg]

QUOTE (aFinn @ Sep 7 2008, 23:20)

This page does not load for me, would it be possible to upload this map to another image hosting service?

You might also want to have a look here, I don't know if the numbers match the other map but it's got map and ingame screenshots.
http://hem.bredband.net/708145/jumps.html (http://hem.bredband.net/708145/jumps.html)

[OrionSR]

The hem.bredband.net numbers don't match dark52s. The Jump map hosted at GameFAQs.com was created by dark52. I posted a link to the author's site, but perhaps this link will work better.

(http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/file/924362/34098)

[rubregg]

Had a first brief glance at Diner Dates; flew Katie around in a News Chopper and waited until the time limit was up. For sure, Katie just bailed out of the chopper from great height. She didn't die though, I didn't get the 'Your girlfriend is dead.' message. Maybe she unspawned before hitting the ground? Or survived due to the increased girlfriend health. Anyway, was fun to watch.

[rubregg]

Sorry for the double-post; wanted to edit but ended up clicking in the wrong window.

QUOTE (cacarla @ Sep 7 2008, 17:27)

@ On topic: the YKBB factory jump is really making me break my head guys. I never trigger the Slo-mo camera in either of the save files(2t and the actual one). I feel that the mistake is definitely on my side but i desperately need help. I've got speed but still the camera doesnt show up. I havent checked the jump markers savefile yet. I'll do that and get back when i'm free. Thanks.

Hmm, you mean the jump over the containers from inside the ykbb factory? That one's very easy actually. Maybe you have too much speed? Try starting at the beginning of the ramp and just go straight up the middle of the ramp. Don't touch the containers at the sides.

[aFinn]

Thanks JAJ and OrionSR, those new links worked for me.
And thanks rubregg, interesting site that too with the screencaps etc. I still have some jumps uncompleted so it might help.

BTW, has anybody got a video of getting ready for the Gant Bridge jump, I've only seen vids with the actual jump. I'm kind of looking for the easiest way to get up there.

[rubregg]

QUOTE (aFinn @ Sep 8 2008, 16:49)

BTW, has anybody got a video of getting ready for the Gant Bridge jump, I've only seen vids with the actual jump. I'm kind of looking for the easiest way to get up there.

You'll have to go up the scaffolding. Never looked for another way though.

[GTA Phreak]

You can also wheelie a bike over the railing from the bridge above, - high risk of ending up in the water though.