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[swimfreak430]

yea we already did that stuff a long time ago but this tread has gone so far off topic that nobody sees it anymore. they have identified almost every building in the Trail with its real life counterpart

[pzuffi]

o0o i gotta go back and see the map then lol.. they put together the whole map

[AleX AciD]

"Industrial area" map:


"Port" area:


"Cherkov" building area:

[AleX AciD]

I'm sorry, but all these images are not fitting in one post, so i have to double.

Unknown area map (must be somewhere near "Cherkov" building):


and it's building numbers:


Also notice small differences between first and second screenshots some garbage was added; doors, road surface and tree were changed.

[dertyjerzian]

Ew, I really hope those arent the final shapes for the cop/taxi cars

[HERDIST]

QUOTE (AleX AciD @ May 7 2007, 03:12)

I'm sorry, but all these images are not fitting in one post, so i have to double.  Unknown area map (must be somewhere near "Cherkov" building): and it's building numbers: Also notice small differences between first and second screenshots some garbage was added; doors, road surface and tree were changed.

Good work man!

[angusgs]

Well, yr explanations are very great...

it helps us to imagine the size of liberty city...it would be so nice and massive!!

[YukiEiri]

QUOTE (AleX AciD @ May 7 2007, 03:10)

"Industrial area" map: "Port" area: "Cherkov" building area:

The thing we can see behind Niko is not the same bridge (Brooklyn) that is in the other images.
Why? 'cos we can't see the cables, and we see so much sky, that we should see them IF that would be the same bridge.

Also the Cherkov-building is not the same, look closely and you will see the difference in the billboard support structure.

And the building in front of it does not seem to have fire-espace in the facade side.. But that may just be because of poor image quality..

EDIT: Actually I think that Niko's back is towards the ElTrain track..

This post has been edited by YukiEiri on May 10 2007, 13:57

[Paeron]

QUOTE (YukiEiri @ May 10 2007, 13:55)

QUOTE (AleX AciD @ May 7 2007, 03:10) "Industrial area" map: "Port" area: "Cherkov" building area: The thing we can see behind Niko is not the same bridge (Brooklyn) that is in the other images. Why? 'cos we can't see the cables, and we see so much sky, that we should see them IF that would be the same bridge. Also the Cherkov-building is not the same, look closely and you will see the difference in the billboard support structure. And the building in front of it does not seem to have fire-espace in the facade side.. But that may just be because of poor image quality.. EDIT: Actually I think that Niko's back is towards the ElTrain track..

I just think it looks like they have edited out the cables in the Niko image. All the buildings are the same and its very hard to see if there are fire escapes or not in the last image. So AleX AciD is still correct IMO.

EDIT: As for the edited image, they had to have their text somewhere, so they just blurred the cables out. Thats what I think.

This post has been edited by Paeron on May 10 2007, 14:26

[YukiEiri]

QUOTE (Paeron @ May 10 2007, 14:21)

I just think it looks like they have edited out the cables in the Niko image. All the buildings are the same and its very hard to see if there are fire escapes or not in the last image. So AleX AciD is still correct IMO.  EDIT: As for the edited image, they had to have their text somewhere, so they just blurred the cables out. Thats what I think.

Ok, I could believe that. BUT..

Notice how low the bridge is behind Niko? If you compere it to this image



You also should notice that the bridge is way higher than the houses around it.

So unfortunately, I have to say again that in my very humble opinion, the thingie behind Niko is the elevated rail thingie, not the (Brooklyn?) bridge.

EDIT: Hmm, something wrong with the pic.. Dmn.. But look at the pic where there is the train and the bridge on the background..

This post has been edited by YukiEiri on May 10 2007, 14:56

[SI MoViE StAr]

The bridge that lies behind Niko IS the Brooklyn Bridge. A bridge that goes up must come down low as well and strings that rise above the bridge have to end somewhere right?

[YukiEiri]

QUOTE (AleX AciD @ May 7 2007, 03:10)

"Port" area: "Cherkov" building area: [/URL]

Ok one more time. Try to keep up ok??

Look at the "port area" pic, you can see that the bridge goes on for quite some time after the buildins, straight and level and higher that those buildings. Also, there's nothing solid underneath the bridge. See .. nothing.. x)

And then the Cherkov-building pics..
First we see Niko, behind him, a little bit higher than the smaller building next to Cherkov. Too low for the bridge.
oh and you can see, that it's not hanging in the air, but it's solid, like elevated rails..

C'mon, they guy has done great work mapping, but still this one pic just does not add up.

[Helsinki]

No-one has yet figured out where the old sugar factory lies, right?

Good work, guys.

[Paeron]

Okay, lets see here.

http://www.paeron.com/upload/GTA/a2opm06numov4.jpg
In this image i have marked the pylon for the Broker Bridge in blue and the side of building 46.

http://www.paeron.com/upload/GTA/b2opm13numwn4.jpg
I did the same in this picture. I also marked the sign structure and a black loadingbay door on the Cherkov building in green.

http://www.paeron.com/upload/GTA/b1opm09numfc3.jpg
No you can see that here you see the same shape of the sign stucture and also the black door marked in green.
You can se that I have marked the shape above building 46 with blue lines since I think that is the Pylon, they have just cut the top of it
So how can the bridge look so low? Well, I've marked a shape at Niko's right shoulder with red that I think is another building. So we do not see the bridge actualy touch the ground since that building, building 46 and our hero Niko is blocking everything beneath it. So what you see is a bridge that looks lower, but it infact further away, thus making it higher than it appears, and bigger.

I also added black lines to show where the cables would be, just for fun.

I hope my insane ramblings are understandable.

[YukiEiri]

QUOTE (Paeron @ May 10 2007, 17:42)

Okay, lets see here. http://www.paeron.com/upload/GTA/a2opm06numov4.jpg In this image i have marked the pylon for the Broker Bridge in blue and the side of building 46. http://www.paeron.com/upload/GTA/b1opm09numfc3.jpg So what you see is a bridge that looks lower, but it infact further away, thus making it higher than it appears, and bigger.

You are making sense, actually so much that I almost doubted myself.

But as we can see (in the first pic with the train) the pylons are right next to the building 46.
Thus the bridge can't be that much further and that leaves us two options:

1) that they are not at the same location
2) they have some weird perspective problems.

And I will be the first to admit that I was wrong if that's the case, but so far I'm not convinced.

[geomy]

Look how far into the channel the pylon is at the opposite side of the channel. I think the perspective makes it look closer than it is on the near side, but I also think you are on the right track. The reason the bridge isn't in the last shot is because it is way off to the right, in the channel.

This post has been edited by geomy on May 11 2007, 07:16

[YukiEiri]

Ok I will now officially give up, since you are so convinced that you are right.
There is no point continue the argument. We will see who was right when we get our hands on the game.

But I must point out one last thing of the pylons, on the other side, the pylon is on the water yes, but on this shore it obviously is not, like it is not on the real bridge.

And Paeron: the "building" that you suspected the lighter part next to Niko's sholder to be. Did you notice that the lines match to the el-train/bridge, not to the roof line to the next building so it can't be another buildin but it is a part of the "bridge" thingie.

EDIT: And I must point this out. There are exactly similar triangelish thingies sticking out of the facade of the Cherkov bulding and the building shown on the other pic. And that is a detail that makes me doubt my own opinion, but since I am convinced that the Nico-pic is from somewhere else, I will keep my head about that and blame R* for generic building design.

This post has been edited by YukiEiri on May 11 2007, 15:35

[Paeron]

Now that the high-res screens (+ the 4 new once) have come I think it is safe to say that he was right. Now let us tear the new pix apart and move on in happiness.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/793/793799/imgs_1.html

[deimossaturn]

I believe this is representative of Brighton Beach in Brooklyn. Perhaps under the Q and B train.

He probably got it when he was young.

This is probably the area of which the first few missions take place and is also probably your first safe house.

Seriously, is it that frikkin cold?

There's wipers on the train. Will the wipers for cars work when it rains in Liberty City? Hmm...

No mirrors in screens and yet in the trailer you can see someone adjusting their rear view mirror in the car.

[geomy]

Nothing major, just noticed the name of the pharmacy in one of the recent official screenshots:



Carney Island = Coney Island

Carnies, for those who don't know, are circus folk: a seedy sort of people, I wouldn't trust them, nor would I talk to them for longer than 30 seconds (they smell funky). Coney is the famous amusement park nestled on the southern tip of Brooklyn, New York City.



If I offended anyone with the carney comments, good. Tell them to take a bath, please.