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 Petition to release GTA1/GTA2 source code

 Rockstar, please free the code!
 
Sektor  
Posted: Monday, May 1 2006, 13:38
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http://gtamp.com/gta2/petition-for-gta2-source/

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Posted: Monday, May 1 2006, 20:25
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I signed. Meh, I kinda like the old gta's.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 2 2006, 02:23
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I signed. Top down rules, its classic... and I'll be looking foreward to further modding the GTA1 game physics engine.
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Posted: Saturday, May 20 2006, 10:07
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I signed.the classic gta´s is execelent the rockstar download free of gta1 and gta2 rahkstar2.gif
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Tigas  
Posted: Saturday, May 20 2006, 10:08
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go to ths site and download
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Posted: Saturday, May 20 2006, 22:01
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QUOTE (Tigas @ May 20 2006, 10:08)
go to ths site and download
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are you touched? "source code" means the un-compiled .EXE, in a state that it can be easily modifyed in any way. a free download like that one only contains the complied code, where the .EXE cannot be modifyed.
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Posted: Thursday, Jun 8 2006, 08:25
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Just signed to help the modding community. smile.gif
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Posted: Wednesday, Jun 14 2006, 07:22
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Signed it. I should note that a former DMA dev wants it released too.
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Posted: Thursday, Jun 29 2006, 01:36
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Posted: Saturday, Jul 22 2006, 00:53
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I signed it.(a long while ago, even twice, accidently)

But getting unsure. If it can be modified in any way, What would happen to multiplayer? GTA2 needs same files, stuff. And could cause errors with modding tools.

I think thats the reason why its not, realesed, the source code...

It could plain screw up everything more then help.
And source code is hard(i persume) for most people.
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Posted: Saturday, Jul 22 2006, 05:54
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There would be a version that is most popular, so you would just use that one unless you really needed a feature from another one. I wouldn't expect lots of versions anyway and compatibility could be added. The release of the source would give far more positives for multiplayer than negatives.

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Posted: Tuesday, Jun 23 2009, 09:54
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GTA 2 ROCKS !!! I Signed too

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4 years already and nothing.

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Posted: Monday, Jun 29 2009, 16:22
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QUOTE (Jordan @ Jun 14 2006, 08:22)
I should note that a former DMA dev wants it released too.

Has Rockstar (or Take Two, whoever holds the rights) ever actually made a statement about releasing the source code? And would it even be possible? I wouldn't be surprised if the source code was simply lost in the turbulent years DMA went through some ten years ago. Does the release of 9.6F means the source code was still around in 2004?
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B-$hep  
Posted: Monday, Jun 29 2009, 17:09
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When free version was released the game was fixed and recompiled.
Originally it was made with MS Visual C++ 6.0, 9.6F was compiled with MS Visual C++ 7.0.
Luckily with debug info, like in original EXE.
They can't recompile a not existing source code and release a fixed EXE.
And in 2004 DMA was already history, if not forgotten. But the sources they have are older than the Russian BUKA version. In Buka version 10.1 there are bugs fixed, that still present in GTA2 9.6F.

The Rockstar version was compiled from c:\code\gta2\source\ folder, while the Buka one was compiled from c:\gbh\coop101release\ folder (it is the original version, as you can see the reference to early GTA2 name - GBH).

Seems like they lost original sources.

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Posted: Tuesday, Sep 15 2009, 23:22
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Has anyone sent a letter or fax? Email is much more easily ignored and just doesn't get to the people in power.

Who would be the best to contact? I guess we should try all their contact locations and people.

These are the contact details listed on the domains. They might be out of date.

Rockstar Games
622 Broadway
New York, NY 10012
US

Phone: 212-334-6633

Take 2 Games
622 Broadway
4th Floor
New York, NY 10012
US

Fax: 212-334-6644

I'd like this message to get to Sam Houser or anyone who has the power to make this happen. I know the chances are slim but I figure it's worth a try.

Can you please release the source code to GTA1 or GTA2? GTA2 turns one decade old this year, so it would be great timing and it would be nothing but good publicity. The game is already freely available, so it couldn't hurt sales and would only be a good thing.

I can understand that there might be some parts of the code that would need to be removed for licensing reasons but it shouldn't be anything that can't be replaced with an open source alternative.

We would prefer it if the code could be made public but if you need to restrict the code to only certain people, there are skilled fans out there, who would be willing to sign NDAs and work on patches to GTA2 for free.

Thank you for your time and for creating such fun and brilliant games.

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Posted: Wednesday, Sep 16 2009, 03:50
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I emailed to them, all i was got that my request was passed to R* headquarters for consideration and that's all.

Maybe the support guy or girl just deleted my email after that.

Of course it would be good if Dan or Sam get's the email.

But i don't think that this email passes to them directly.




But of course, we could try sending paper letter.
Still, does the letter get's to the KEY people?



Btw, i don't like idea that only few people will get the source.

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Posted: Monday, Oct 19 2009, 03:17
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QUOTE (B-$hep @ Sep 16 2009, 03:50)
I emailed to them, all i was got that my request was passed to R* headquarters for consideration and that's all.

Maybe the support guy or girl just deleted my email after that.

Of course it would be good if Dan or Sam get's the email.

But i don't think that this email passes to them directly.




But of course, we could try sending paper letter.
Still, does the letter get's to the KEY people?



Btw, i don't like idea that only few people will get the source.

Thanks for that, I signed. I would just love to mod GTA 1 - 2! The games that started it all... sly.gif

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You can also try to get Rockstar's attention by posting comments on Rockstar News Wire (requires Social Club account) or the Rockstar Games facebook page.

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