[gta player06]

QUOTE (OliG @ Jun 4 2006, 11:47)

how do u measure car speed?

All car parameters are in game files so he opens them and finds out exact car handling

[adam915]

i sure that the fastest car is the GT-A1 but i like the meteor . and i think the best car for losing the police cars is the bug. just power it up with the power manager and you got a high speed chasing car.

[mibars]

QUOTE (gta player06 @ Jun 4 2006, 13:04)

All car parameters are in game files so he opens them and finds out exact car handling

No.

Some things cannot be just read in handling, I tried every of these cars to check it's speed. Why? It's very simple - how I could tell you real max speed of a car, when it's acceleration is to poor to reach it? And how I could tell you what's the acceleration of the car, when it depends from mass, gears etc? And finally handling This must be tested

[Rafa]

QUOTE (adam915 @ Jun 5 2006, 08:47)

i sure that the fastest car is the GT-A1 but i like the meteor . and i think the best car for losing the police cars is the bug. just power it up with the power manager and you got a high speed chasing car.

the fastest one is the cop car... try on a multiplayer game go max speed with a gt-a1 and get a friend to go max speed beside u on a cop car... then ull see!

[Pilot Veteran]

Hmm i think Cop car, Meteor, Furore GT, Z-type and so on have the same speed.
But they have different acceleration.

[OnePiece]

I always thought the Michelli Roadster was the fastest.

[nosferatu5]

Loved the Meteor.

[DarthTemplar]

It doesnt matter what car is fast. I just jack any sedan I see. But mainly I use smaller cars like Bug or use Z-types when I am not trying to win over respect for the Zs

[Giradox]

I hope no one minds I am bumping this topic. Great info, mibars. Only thing is that "handling" is highly subjective. The Meteor turns like it turns, no matter what speed.
I have no concerns with it, I am used to it and know how it turns, and it's the car I'm best with.

I always somehow felt that it was the fastest car. I also don't agree with the acceleration note on it, to me it seems to accelerate faster than the Z-Type.
I would also be interested to know what scale you use for ranging the acceleration. What's "quite fast" compared to "mediocre" and so on.

[mibars]

Guess what - I don't remember even making this speed/accel/handling test after five years

I'm not sure, but I probably checked how fast each car reaches certain speed, which isn't very accurate concidering how "gears" work in GTA2 - High low RPM torque decreasing as it accelerates leading to odd behavior of increasing acceleration after gear change - One vehicle could stay too long on 2nd decreasing my acceleration rating, while just after switching to 3rd it would accelerate in a moment to top speed

BTW: email notification of replies rocks ^^

[elypter]

just look at the gci file or even easier look at the physics tab of manager. you find threshold and gear multiplyers there

[Giradox]

QUOTE (mibars @ Friday, Oct 7 2011, 00:03)

Guess what - I don't remember even making this speed/accel/handling test after five years I'm not sure, but I probably checked how fast each car reaches certain speed, which isn't very accurate concidering how "gears" work in GTA2 - High low RPM torque decreasing as it accelerates leading to odd behavior of increasing acceleration after gear change - One vehicle could stay too long on 2nd decreasing my acceleration rating, while just after switching to 3rd it would accelerate in a moment to top speed BTW: email notification of replies rocks ^^

Haha, how good of you to come back to this topic!

I love cars that do not screech (make marks on the ground) when starting them. There aren't too many, Schmidt, Rumbler and Stinger being amongst them. I also noticed that the Rumbler brakes incredibly well. Many different factors.

elypter: What gci file? Where can you see data like this? Also, there is no 'physics tab in manager', whatever that meant.

Edit: GCI, apologies.

This post has been edited by Giradox on Monday, Oct 10 2011, 23:27

[elypter]

QUOTE (Giradox @ Monday, Oct 10 2011, 03:01)

elypter: What cgi file? Where can you see data like this? Also, there is no 'physics tab in manager', whatever that meant.

gci files store the carhandling information. by default gta2 uses nyc.gci but few custom maps have heir own gci file.
About the manager: Ofc you have to have gamehunter. By adding some registry keys it makes the hidden physics and debug tab visible. if that doesnt work you can also use powermanager or one of the car manipulation programs.

[Giradox]

Thanks, I found it and wrote up most of the info on a Excel 2007 spreadsheet. The OP was right, except the top speed for Trance-Am is wrong.
I will be posting it in the coming days.

So yeah, the Meteor is the fastest car amongst the "ordinary" cars. I don't count the Wang cars, because you can't really drive them without cheating, can you?

[elypter]

QUOTE (Giradox @ Monday, Oct 10 2011, 23:28)

So yeah, the Meteor is the fastest car amongst the "ordinary" cars. I don't count the Wang cars, because you can't really drive them without cheating, can you?

In multiplayer maps they spawn normally on the street, except you switch them off by hand which has not been done in any of the about 300 mp maps

[Shayan Shaffey]

Weird, I always thought the Z-model was the fastest.

[Giradox]

Here it is; the ultimate list

Microsoft Excel 2007 spreadsheet (recommended)
Excel 2003 version
OpenOffice.org Calc version

Note that the 2007 version has colourless and black&white sheets as well.

I've modified it for OpenOffice so it should become readable, even if OpenOffice struggles to be half as decent as Excel.
I have no idea how the 97-2003 version turned out, as I don't have it.

It confirms what I've always thought, that the Rumbler is the fastest one to break fast (vocabulary broken).

The Furore GT's abysmal handling seems to come from an extremely low turn in compared with the game's highest turn ratio. I'm not sure how they work exactly though.

The stats' conditional formatting is usually ranked from green (best) to red (worst). In a few cases where I don't know whether having a low/high value is good/bad, I've used a red/blue-scale (red is lowest). And some are empty as they are uninteresting, at least to me. You can add and mess around with it on your own anyway.
I've already hidden a value, "D-pad", which is 0 for every vechile.
Gear 3 multiplier is also always 1 000, I haven't hidden that just in case it might be useful.

Note that Turbo is "1" for many of the fastest cars, but excluding: Michelli Roadster, T-Rex & Wellard.

I suppose Thrust is the same as acceleration, but I'm not quite sure.
If so, I suppose Thrust and Max speed could be combined into one block, but I feel speed should weigh more than acceleration. If you just add them up, though, you will get the T-Rex and Hachura on top, with great speed and thrust. There is most likely a better way to define this.

I left out the train, as there were so many other entires connected to train that I didn't know which one was "real", or if one changes the other's data.
There was also a few entries called "Hot Dog dummy" which I left.

I wonder if rear end stability means if you're rammed into the arse or something? Obviously it doesn't seem like a good idea to ram a Tank from behind.

[AssainGuy]

GT-A1.
i stole one in residential district using hax. its goddamn fast and uncontrollable. i prefer using the tank =)

[racersg]

The GTA Wiki says the Cop Car, but the GT-A1 is the fastest if you mod it.

[Giradox]

Which is why you should not use Wikis as your primary source.
The Meteor and Furore GT are both faster than the Cop Car. The Meteor accelerates faster than the Cop Car, but the Cop Car accelerates slightly faster than the Furore GT. See my table sheets above.