[vicecity45]

"can u still model cars and put them in for v2?"

No.
-dexx

Ok, here is *some* progress (yes you can install cars now):
http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?act=ST&...=0#entry3881301

This post has been edited by DexX on Monday, Sep 25 2006, 06:51

[Demarest]

Maybe we should keep all the 2.0 modability talk in one thread to not facilitate the need to continue to post new topics, eh? That is if staff will silence Stab long enough for a productive dicsussion to get underway (if it hasn't already; can't be bothered to bone up on 7 identical topics on a subject that doesn't directly effect me).

[vicecity45]

um yea i duno if i was supposed to understand anything u just said but it all pretty much went over my head. i just asked a simple yes or no question.

[Demarest]

Forgive me for encouraging you to think a bit deeper for yourself Let's put it this way: When I have a question, I search existing topics so that I'm not needlessly creating a topic. If you'll look in the forum you posted this in, you'll see it's the 7th thread on SA 2.0. I've got money on that you didn't check there first. If you and everybody else did, we'd have one topic, all posters working together, and maybe some progress made. But for as long as anybody who got the game is willing to create another thread on the subject (or as is the case with Stab, 4 topics each with about a dozen consecutive posts a la soliloquy), nobody will get anywhere.

[DexX]

QUOTE (Demarest @ Sep 28 2005, 07:55)

Maybe we should keep all the 2.0 modability talk in one thread

yes. this one. stab's (any of them) were too spammed up to be productive.

Regarding the question at hand, its too early to give a such a definitive answer. but if what i've seen and read so far is any indication, there are at least changes made that will make the process different for 2.00 users, if not very difficult to impossible.

Most of the people who know what to look for and how to mod the game, have already bought it for the pc, and even for the ps2. i dont think they want to buy it a 2nd or 3rd time, just to determine if its moddable.

R* changed some stuff which alters the modding process, go complain to them.

[harryhynie]

I sent R* an email asking them if you can mod things in v2.0 and they sent this back:

Dear Sir/Madam

Thank you for contacting Rockstar Technical Support.

Unfortunately we do not support mods for the game.

Kind Regards,
Rockstar Technical Support

Yeah so no mods for Second edition

[DexX]

well technically they didnt "support" mods on the 1.01 and 1.00 versions either.

Send this to them:
http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/pc/
Go to features, then read the last feature:

QUOTE

Player modifications support, giving PC gamers the opportunity to create their own world within San Andreas

Now no matter how you interpret that, it is a 100% solid, bold faced lie. they should atleast take it off their website, since its more than misleading. Usually companies "twist" the truth a bit, but this is straight up wrong, especially with 2.00.

[adam schiller]

Trade descriptions act??

[Simon.]

I've sent them this, hopefully I'll get an informative reply. I'm not sending to tech support though, because I think that it is more of a mouth-off, no? We'll see what happens anyways; I had also attached images of the site.

QUOTE

Dear Sir/Madam I have been informed that the executable of the newest version of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas has been modified to prevent game mods from being installed. Many members of the Grand Theft Auto community are very unhappy because they cannot download save games, vehicle mods, player skins (which I am working on now, but am very unhappy that not everyone with GTA: San Andreas will get to use it.), weapons, missions, worlds, and/or total conversions. The PC version of the San Andreas site gives the false impression that the game is modifiable, by saying... QUOTE "For more information on all things Grand Theft Auto including unofficial mods, skins and forums chock full of bizarre rumours - check out the following selection from our web ring...." and by also saying... QUOTE "PC gamers around the world can now experience the epic videogame experience that is Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - fully optimized for the PC platform featuring polished and enhanced graphics, visual effects, soundtrack capabilities, instant replay, player mod support and more." I have also attached captures of your website, with the same quotes. I own the PS2 version and the PC version purely because I want to modify GTA: San Andreas, and add extra replayability values to the game for others and I around the globe. I expect there to be a patch released for all gamers with the SE version of GTA: San Andreas, which allows them to download modifications to their PC for play with GTA: San Andreas. I'd also like a reply in 2-5 business days, so I can be assured that you have read my e-mail and the actions you have decided to take. Your Faithfully Simon Campbell

@adam: I also thought that the website was misleading.

This post has been edited by simoncampbell on Thursday, Sep 29 2005, 04:50

[harryhynie]

Yeah good job for sending it. What email address did you send it to?

This post has been edited by harryhynie on Thursday, Sep 29 2005, 04:52

[DexX]

QUOTE

I'm not sending to tech support though, because I think that it is more of a mouth-off, no?

yea, they have generic answers that they'll give. so who did you send it to?

[Simon.]

mouthoff@rockstargames.com

Though I do not suggest many people e-mailing them, or they'll get pissed off . I should have included in the e-mail, 'if this e-mail has found the wrong person please forward on".

[Demarest]

Somehow I think pissed off was accounted for when they decided to f*ck their fan base for the sake of protecting their pocket books. Apparently, they are oblivious to the fact that f*cking your fans is the most sure fire way to ensure your pocketbooks each an accelerated demise.

Keep in mind that when we say "they", we're probably referring to a board some 10-12 members in size while some of the actual CONTRIBUTORS to the work (programmers, designers, etc) sit and watch in horror as their employer makes decisions that will guarantee their job's longevity is no longer certain.

[Simon.]

QUOTE

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed.       mouthoff@rockstargames.com Final-Recipient: rfc822;mouthoff@rockstargames.com Action: failed Status: 5.2.3 X-Display-Name: Mouthoff

That e-mail did not work, yet I got it off nomorehotcoffee....

While I try find a valid adress, I kinda knew that they were going to disable modding a while ago. I wasn't sure when....

This is the article, I got the information from for whoever wants to read it.

Click

QUOTE (Bottom Paragraph @ Australian Gamepro)

In response to the outcry, Rockstar stated that it intends to take steps to prevent hackers from modding the game. "Since the 'Hot Coffee' scenes cannot be created without intentional and significant technical modifications and reverse-engineering of the game's source code, we are currently investigating ways that we can increase the security protection of the source code."

Obviously they found a way, and re-released the game as SE , this doesn't look pretty. I'm hoping my e-mail (which more than likely won't) will influence them to release some sort of patch to remove such a code from the exe. Because all this is leading to is less sales, less money and more people wanting 1.00 which has to be warez to get . This isn't gonna be pretty.

[DexX]

christ, i remember reading that. they don't realize, that not only are they solving the wrong problem, but promoting the larger warez issue, which is bad for the industry in general. but i guess keeping the CEO's pocketbook full and pleasing politicians is all that matters these days

well, we'll see how much longer i stick around here. i know Opius has been looking into HL2 and the hammer editor. i bought Doom 3 the other day, and am a big fan of Unreal and Battlefield. its refreshing to visit communities where modding is not only supported, but encouraged. and the publishers don't stick their dick in your ass after you lay down money for their products. between gta3 ps2 and SA PC, i've layed down $300 on gta games, @ $50 a pop. in reality, the modders spend more money on gta (usually buying the game twice) than most of the gta "players". im not sure if that makes me a dedicated fan, or a sucker. considering how we get treated, i'd have to lean toward the latter.

[Demarest]

QUOTE (ashdexx @ Sep 29 2005, 02:33)

in reality, the modders spend more money on gta (usually buying the game twice) than most of the gta "players". im not sure if that makes me a dedicated fan, or a sucker. considering how we get treated, i'd have to lean toward the latter.

I agree. There are still quite a few people more than content with it on console. In fact, the people not buying it for PC to mod it are usually buying it for PC to use mods for it.

[Knife]

Has anyone actually tried installing mods properly on version 2?

[dertyjerzian]

QUOTE (ashdexx @ Sep 28 2005, 12:47)

well technically they didnt "support" mods on the 1.01 and 1.00 versions either. Send this to them: http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/pc/ Go to features, then read the last feature: QUOTE Player modifications support, giving PC gamers the opportunity to create their own world within San Andreas Now no matter how you interpret that, it is a 100% solid, bold faced lie. they should atleast take it off their website, since its more than misleading. Usually companies "twist" the truth a bit, but this is straight up wrong, especially with 2.00.

My opinion is that they say that kowing that a quick google for "gta mods" will bring up gta forums. Put two and two together.

[adam schiller]

and then yeah find something to shut down the site on some law, but there actually breaking the trade descriptions by doing this any one want to sue?


Phone tech support ask to speak to there manager ect ect

the guys who campaigned against the Ipod Nano being unable to withstand everyday life got on the news maybe we can to LOL

[vicecity45]

hahahaha^ i just got a nano yesterday for my bday its so friggin tiny. anyway, im buyin v1 off ebay so w/e i dont care anymore. but im glad you chose my thread. next time ill look around before posting. i didnt know it was the 7th topic sry.