We have this saying here 'A man without a belly is a cripple'. Unfortunately I have a Burger King and a McDonalds right beside my workplace. That could be a reason to go for exercise again! The only problem is to get back to a nice training-rhythm. Once you have a constant rhythm it's rolling and your body wants more and more. It's funny if you think about how many tons of weight you're moving during a single hour of hard excercise.
Please make sure, you have guys around you who are able to help in case you need help!
The sound is awesome! Oaurarghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
This post has been edited by NaidRaida on Friday, May 11 2012, 20:25
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I've never seen a bench failure where the bar actually slips out of someone's hand. Whenever I failed a rep, I would still have the bar in my hand - I just couldn't push it up any further and it would slowly come down.
I've never seen a bench failure where the bar actually slips out of someone's hand
The assistants of the poor dude up there probably haven't seen this too. To get stuck under the barbell is pretty common I think, you are loosing your power very suddenly during bench-press. One time I was all alone at the gym and this excercise was planned. I got stuck and had to roll down the barbell over my chest and stomach which was really painfull afterwards. It hurted for weeks. I can only recommend to do this only with assistance, never alone no matter what weight you choose. Always hated this one, my chest and triceps are so f*cking weak.
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QUOTE (NaidRaida @ Friday, May 11 2012, 15:14)
One time I was all alone at the gym and this excercise was planned. I got stuck and had to roll down the barbell over my chest and stomach which was really painfull afterwards. It hurted for weeks.
Yeah, when I started to do heavy weights, I'd always call a spot over. Sometimes if there wasn't anyone around and I wanted to do a heavy set, I would lower the weight slightly and I also wouldn't put collars on the bar in the event that, if I suddenly had a failure in strength, I could dump the plates off by tilting the bar. The gym owner would no doubt be pissed, because the plates falling would dent the floor, but at least I wouldn't be hurt.
Thankfully, I never had to do that.
The worst injury I had at the gym was two years ago. I was doing a free-weight military press and when I was going to re-rack the bar, I overshot the rack and so the bar was behind my head and I couldn't muster enough strength to bring the bar back up (gravity won), so it rotated by shoulder right back - it hurt like hell for four weeks, but it healed nicely, so I was lucky.
I could dump the plates off by tilting the bar. The gym owner would no doubt be pissed
Someone should recommend the owner to put some thick rubber pads around the bench-presses cause using the barbell without the safety screw is common practise. I ruined the floor of my neighboor once because of a flipping barbell. My solution: I put some slippers above the hole in the floor!
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It looks like the guy in that video was using a thumb-less grip. What an idiot. Never use a thumb-less grip on bench, especially when it's a max attempt.
I cannot really recognize it in the vid but otherwise he must have broken both of his thumbs. I cannot imagine how the bar can come out the hand if the thumb is in front of the bar like a normal grip.
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Icarus, I admittedly never touch my chest during incline bench nor do I ever see anyone doing it in the gym I go to. I was always taught that touching your chest on incline is bad for the RCs.
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Hex bars are never used in any sort of competitive deadlifting whether its powerlifting, strongman, crossfit, etc. because any legitimate event is going to be testing the strength of the body's posterior chain for this lift. The only way to do that is to have the center of mass in front of the body using a barbell or a hinge apparatus that is often used in strongman. That's why I only consider deadlifting with a barbell to be a true deadlift. The grip, either overhand or alternating, doesn't affect that.
Regardless of whether or not they're used in competitive lifting, I don't see what the problem is with them. Whether or not you consider it a deadlift doesn't really affect the fact that it is a deadlift by definition because of the fact that it's "dead weight". I agree with you on the merits of the BB deadlift obviously being much more beneficial, but I just like the hex bar better. In the long run, I'm not a competitive lifter or anything, and it works fine for my goals which are really just strength and aesthetics.
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QUOTE (Irviding @ Friday, May 11 2012, 20:38)
Icarus, I admittedly never touch my chest during incline bench nor do I ever see anyone doing it in the gym I go to. I was always taught that touching your chest on incline is bad for the RCs.
For most people, touching the chest on incline is perfectly acceptable. I've done it that way for 15 years and have reached a 405 max with zero rotator cuff problems as a result. For those that can't touch their chest, it's usually due to a lack of shoulder flexibility usually from not stretching.
Stan Efferding, a pro powerlifter, touches his chest with 495.
I f*cking dare you to tell this guy he's doing it wrong.
QUOTE (Irviding @ Friday, May 11 2012, 20:38)
Whether or not you consider it a deadlift doesn't really affect the fact that it is a deadlift by definition because of the fact that it's "dead weight".
A barbell hack squat is also picking dead weight from the floor and setting it back down each rep, yet it's called a hack squat, not a deadlift. For example:
Again, I never said there was anything wrong with using a hex bar except for the fact that it won't work the posterior chain the same way as standard barbell deadlifts will.
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QUOTE (Irviding @ Friday, May 11 2012, 20:38)
Icarus, I admittedly never touch my chest during incline bench nor do I ever see anyone doing it in the gym I go to. I was always taught that touching your chest on incline is bad for the RCs.
For most people, touching the chest on incline is perfectly acceptable. I've done it that way for 15 years and have reached a 405 max with zero rotator cuff problems as a result. For those that can't touch their chest, it's usually due to a lack of shoulder flexibility usually from not stretching.
Stan Efferding, a pro powerlifter, touches his chest with 495.
I f*cking dare you to tell this guy he's doing it wrong.
I don't know how scary he is considering the songs he's listening to in that gym
I don't think there's anything wrong with touching/not touching on the incline bench, I just don't like to. I have a really f*cked up body in the first place (I have grinding in my arms, dislocated kneecaps, shoulder pain) so I don't want to risk hurting my RC. The funny thing is, all the doctors were saying not to work out when I was younger and had all this pain, but when I started lifting I have to say that's what mitigated it the best.
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Well yeah, if it's a structural issue with your physique, then only do what's comfortable. Rotator cuff exercises are good for preventing problems associated with benching as well.
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QUOTE (Xcommunicated @ Friday, May 11 2012, 21:47)
Well yeah, if it's a structural issue with your physique, then only do what's comfortable. Rotator cuff exercises are good for preventing problems associated with benching as well.
I was always taught that touching the chest is not the issue but the angle between chest/body and arms is more important, especially for the health of the shoulder joint. The angle is basically related to your arm length and to the width of your grip. The one can touch the chest, the other not.
After my knowledge it's more healthy to do it like in the lower picture. I was told not to do it like in the first one no matter if I stretched or not. Of course this is not true to scale but it shows what I mean. If that is true I don't know but several sport trainers/physios told me that.
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QUOTE (Xcommunicated @ Saturday, May 12 2012, 01:47)
Well yeah, if it's a structural issue with your physique, then only do what's comfortable. Rotator cuff exercises are good for preventing problems associated with benching as well.
I tore my rotator cuff doing dumbbell shoulder press before, and it doesn't affect how far I can go down either, so I think that's bull.
I'm creeping up to 405 on incline bar, great max btw. My best so far is 335 for 3, but I'll get there eventually.
It's nice to just be in the gym with buddies and help them out or answer their questions. When they do the exercises with wrong form i try to teach them how to do it right. Gives a good feeling this helping others thing
But yeah, i'm exhausted. Shoulder and arms day for me.
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QUOTE (Sup3rman @ Monday, May 14 2012, 15:54)
It's nice to just be in the gym with buddies and help them out or answer their questions. When they do the exercises with wrong form i try to teach them how to do it right. Gives a good feeling this helping others thing
But yeah, i'm exhausted. Shoulder and arms day for me.
Also shoulder day for me!
I'm hoping I find some energy within the next 30 minutes or so.
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QUOTE (--CellTech-- @ Monday, May 14 2012, 22:03)
I don't touch my chest because if you hold for 2 seconds just above it you strain other muscle fibers you don't hit by full range of motion.
This sounds like absolute broscience, do you have any sources to back this claim?
EDIT: That's solid Lith, I'm just now doing 100 on standing overhead press for fives. I'm gonna have to look into microloading, because there's no way I'll be able to sustain five pounds jumps on that any more.
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