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Attention:
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WhoooMan  |
Posted: Wednesday, Jun 30 2004, 16:26
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wut.

Group: Members
Joined: Aug 3, 2002


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| QUOTE (gansta killa @ Jun 29 2004, 22:00) | | I know its a tutorial area, and I know I'm not a led-by for it. But I don't want to see converted cars being released without the authors permission. I mean we've got enough of that already, but whatever. | Then it's our duty to teach them in the tutorial to get the mdel arthur's permission. On the other hand, whoever releases a model without permission deal with it, not us.
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DexX  |
Posted: Saturday, Jul 3 2004, 04:51
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Black Hat

Group: Retired Staff
Joined: May 16, 2002


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Actually, i think a good a tutorial would be one for starting TC's (total conversions). If you havent noticed, alot of n00bs come here, and thats the first thing on their mind. some of the things the tutorial should cover:
-examples from and links to Successful TC's, Myriad and GTA:LC -An overview of exactly what is involved, and necessary for tools -How to gather a team and start off simple, gradually working up to a TC
Bearing in mind tha a true TC replaces almost every part of the game, it should also include links on getting started in the various other aspects, modelling, textureing, scripting, etc.
In contrast to tutorials that explain what is possible, and how do it, i think we should also have one pinned topic about what major features are NOT editable (feasibly anyway. hex editing doesnt count) editing player animations, Changing text colors and fonts (MAJOR font changes arent really possible) Movng lights on emergency vehicles, etc, etc. Sure they've been documented before, but having a fairly complete list in one spot is easier to go through and more organized. Things that become possible later on, could stay on the list until a tutorial or method of how to alter them is available.
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Augh  |
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Unspoiled by progress

Group: Members
Joined: May 11, 2004



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Sortof the nearest approximation for an appropriate place to post this I could find... I was just looking over a thread which had apparently been serially moved, and Delfi had commented that we need a general help and support forum, with more helping, and less ( my interpretation, not Delfi's own words) "Don't post here! No, of course I won't give you the answer... I'm not about to post that I wouldn't have anyway". I would have replied in the correct thread but it was locked as I pushed 'quote'. I know it isn't all forum users that post discouragement, inadvertantly or otherwise, and so do many, but the guilty parties probably know who they are (I hope). A lot of the time I have the solution to a question but feel wierd about posting if several forum members already derailed the thread to talk about silly newbies who attempt to contribute... In a dedicated help forum, well, that's what it's there for. I know also that the current forums are intended to provide help and support, but I think a lot of users are aware of the little equation I'm talking about. All in all, I think a dedicated, cooperative help forum would be a wonderful resource, if we can keep it from being 'protected' so severely that noone dare use it. If SA is going to have any nice modding, these people need support and training. I've learned every single thing I know about modding from this forum, so have others, we can raise that headcount. Cheers all.  Edit to answer Dup without cluttering further  That sounds pretty much the ideal solution, should you decide to accomodate that sort of back and forth (An all tutes forum is MUCH cleaner, totally agree, that's how it should stay, dedicated functional etc), it would possibly draw some fire too, from the 'straight' threads. Whatever you decide to do man, thanks again just for getting this forum going... tutorial forum is pretty much vital imo This post has been edited by Augh on Tuesday, Jul 6 2004, 13:43
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Dup  |
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Retired Lurker

Group: Zaibatsu
Joined: May 18, 2002



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I know what you mean, i do point out the error and then i do my best to help the person in question.
I am now the led-by for this forum, what i bout i make a pinned thread for quick questions/answers for those quick off-topic questions like "how to make low riders" etc. The aim here is to have a directory of dedicated tutorials, where we aren't cluttered with one question one answer.
A lot of the problems are that people just do not look, search or pay any attention. They sign up just to post a pretty obvious question, and post it in the wrong place due to ignorance.
Most of us have done it before so I can't complain really. I will think about that thread further but for now, keep this topic on-topic please
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