Please reconsider.

I like the nightstick and I like cops beating you until you actually whip out a gun and shoot at them. That adds to the game in my opinion.

If not how easy will it be to mod it back to nightsticks?
It would probably be going too far from a port to suggest the mod that makes cops shoot at you and your wanted level to raise just for walking around with a gun.... I think its dumb to walk by a cop with a rocket launcher or uzi and have them walk right by you

This is getting to the point of enhanceing GTA3. I do agree with the exacct port idea, but why leave out things that actually do make it better? Especially when they are small changes like this?

The guns, if there are no pickups, then you cant pick them up
Leave the additional ones for people with the trainer to play with as extras.
They will not be available in regular game play anyways.
But if the gun is there why make it useless by draining it?

I will work on the HUD icons for the rest of the weapons if no one else currently is. The fist especially needs to be done.

This post has been edited by Blunted1 on Sunday, Feb 22 2004, 13:53

This is probably more welcome in the WEAPONS thread, so I'm posting it there too.
I'm all for removing the NightStick, simply for GTAIII authenticity.

If you edit the line in weapon.dat to

it uses the attributes from the "Unarmed" animation, and the cop hits you with his fists and not with the NightStick. It's a copy of the Unarmed stats, so the hit damage is the same as when you get hit.
No sign of the NightStick when you're being beaten up.

that works too....

I love it
That way those of us that want a nightstick can change that line with ease

Good job again James

[EDIT]
OK I'm done the Fist hud.txd

http://calzinger.net/misc/hud.txd
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This post has been edited by Blunted1 on Sunday, Feb 22 2004, 14:46

@Blunted1: Let's not do this again. You knew--as everybody does--that this project's mission is a direct port. Let's not start on the "how can we improve it" kick. I understand that some things are going to be different which is why we're doing this. But the weapons are already going to be awkward for the simple fact that VC has less weapon slots than GTA3. Let's not complicate it. As stated before, the cops in both game behave almost identically, regardless of their weaponry. If you have one star, they try to physically assault you. If you have 2 or more, they shoot at you. If you are at 1 and are on top of a car or other unreachable area, they shoot at you. Whether or not they have a night stick doesn't change this. As for the spotting somebody walking around with rocket launcher, that is way beyond the scope of this project. I'm surprised somebody would even mention it. I made an unofficial mods thread for such things. Thanks for the HUD upgrade. That'll be going into the release, correct?

As for the night stick, I already left my opinion in the weapons thread.

Alright Dem, no worries.... as mentioned it will be very easy to change should we do it the way JamesSHF has pointed out, after which I said

I understand your stance on the exact port sorry about the unofficial suggestion. As far as extra weapons, I was more asking if the weapons were not acessed unless picked up, could they could be left in..
What I was getting at was not removeing things unnecessarily that could be left without consequence and accessed through cheats.

I'd be lying if I said that I did understand what I was asking though, and basically to clarify, how would the extra weapons such as minigun and mp5 etc be accessed without cheats such as the trainer if there were no pickups for them?

but, again... if it is done the way JamesSHF is suggesting, then I am already a happy camper as I can simply change those lines in the weapons.dat, so if you don't want to I guess there is no urgent reason to answer my question besides my own curiosity.


Yes, the HUD upgrade will definitly be in the next release

You're right. There would be no way to get them. For that reason, I suggest we leave in the minigun. We'd still have to replace the mp5 with the ak-47 replacement as the FBI use them. Otherwise, the unused weapons we could leave alone. I'll go post that now

Beautiful That way we still have the added bonus of a minigun and other assorted weapons, but no way to use them without cheats so a normal game is not affected by it.
Thats perfect

I'm sure the nightstick will have to go considering the method of removal so far, but that can be put back by replaceing the weapons.dat line which is very easy

Yes, the weapons are still there, and still useable.
A lot of the weapons won't be spawned anywhere in the game (as has been said) and can be left alone anyway, it's really only the night-stick that needs editing this way.

For this reason, maybe I can rearrange the official weapons replacements to coincide with law enforcement and such. That way we could keep more VC weapons in. We'd have to do some model/stat/etc swapping, but mostly straightforward. Anybody willing to take the initiative? It's bed time for me.

I would, but I'm not completely sure what weapons the law enforcement use.
Maybe I'll go annoy them in a minute and find out .

I would, but I'm not completely sure what weapons the law enforcement use.
Maybe I'll go annoy them in a minute and find out .

All updated in the weapons thread for you

OUTRO SCREEN UPDATED:

Sorry it took two weeks, but now that I'm in my new place and have my system setup again, I updated the outro with the new names (if anyone wants proper avatars, just post!) and fixed the transparencies. Dem has his regular sinister visage in place

The link on the original post HERE is updated with the new RAR, along with the current image.

Enjoy

...i think you forgot Blunted1's avator

This post has been edited by wnuczek on Saturday, Feb 28 2004, 20:19

Oops! Thanks.

Updated!

Yes, thanks

bump

Pausemap update for LC-350X. Thanks to Hammer83 for posting this which is essentially a pausemap and radar for LC-350X. I used that pausemap as a template for the one I made that looks GTA3.

HOWEVER, this brings up an interesting topic of discussion. Having the GTA3 radar standard will be the way the official release is. But GTA3 didn't have a pausemap. So we are left to interpretation here. Do we go with the one I made that is just the GTA3 radar? Or do we go with Jay Bee's more detailed map? It's up to the popular vote. I for one think JB's is perfectly fine. It will have VC's pausemap feel while giving added detail for those who actually aren't that familiar with LC. I agree with killer.ip that the map is a bit more caustic than JB's GPS radar. But as the pausemap, I think that works just fine.

So what do you guys think? Both links posted here. Radar coming soon enough...

I think that the GTA3 style pause map would be best. Especially since the radar will match that way.

I think the original GTA3 radar looks better in the pause menu, it blends in with the dark colors in the background.

When doing the update I didn't think of it, but GTA3 style mause map seems a much better idea than colourful JayBee's. However, I think GPS radar is a must, whether 1.1 or 2.0. I'm fine with both, but I personally prefer to have more contrast in the images so I like 2.0 better. I can make 1.1 and original also as alternative - no problem. I have the PSP script that breaks up the image into 128x128 blocks, so it would take me 30 mins probably to do each version of radar.

I think it goes without saying that the radar will be GTA3's. Using JayBee's as an unofficial release would be a welcome addition to many, I'm sure