[Pico]

Note: please don't post any troubleshooting questions or requests in this topic. Either post a new topic or use the pinned Random Questions topic for smaller issues

I'm pretty sure I made a thread like this before but it's been lost in the shuffle. I was hoping this could possibly get pinned because I'm sure tons of us would like to post small things that don't warrant a topic so it goes un-posted.

I for one, need to just complain for a minute.
As some may recall, the past few months I've been having PC problems where my computer just shuts down when pushed moderately hard. Well I think I found the cause... my thermal sensor was turned off in the BIOS for my CPU. I enabled it... all programs are showing readings of 80-85*C!!! I hear that's the HIGHEST my CPU temp should go... and it's sticking around that with moderate usage, about 80-83*C during idle. So I'm assuming my HSF isn't doing the job nearly as good as it should be... so I'm hoping to buy a new HSF ASAP!

Also, I found this at Tomshardware.com yesterday. Apparently an Intel i9 6-core CPU was just sold on eBay recently for $1,200. You heard me, SIX core CPU, and it's running at 2.4Ghz. Must be awesome with programs and games that can run them all. And $1,200 is a steal don't new i7's go for near that, if not more?
Source

Can't wait until I can even get a quad core, let alone a 6 core!

[Slamman]

I was told I'm the only LaserDisc fan and owner here, Well, I do own a few, and I took most of my later model Pioneers apart to work on, I have a gear/sensor issue where I swapped the laser diode assemblies to make sure things were good on that end, then I inspected the gear sync holes for the tray, they seemed good, everything that was visibly wrong I corrected, still, tray and disc load, I get the laser moving to read the media and a horrible clicking results, the gears are mis-aligned. Who nowadays can solve this issue? I'm only thinking a complete transport swap between players is the solution, but if anyone is SMART enough to figure it out, post or PM!! Soon

[pcguytech]

Sweet! That guy has great taste and money too!
I bet he'll be kicking GTAIV's ass frame-wise when he gets it up and running.

Pico - Yeah! man get yourself a good trusted aftermarket HSF. Those temps are just right for frying eggs not for CPUs. JK

[GTAvanja]

QUOTE (Slamman @ Dec 6 2009, 03:08)

I was told I'm the only LaserDisc fan and owner here, Well, I do own a few, and I took most of my later model Pioneers apart to work on, I have a gear/sensor issue where I swapped the laser diode assemblies to make sure things were good on that end, then I inspected the gear sync holes for the tray, they seemed good, everything that was visibly wrong I corrected, still, tray and disc load, I get the laser moving to read the media and a horrible clicking results, the gears are mis-aligned. Who nowadays can solve this issue? I'm only thinking a complete transport swap between players is the solution, but if anyone is SMART enough to figure it out, post or PM!! Soon

Just switch to DVD or BluRay already, jeez.

[Slamman]

Dude, dude, dude. I had bluray on my PS3, it was pawned, so was the Xbox, the rent is paramount at the moment, then the electricity bills. I used to make $15 an hour or nearly, I was buying LDs with my paycheck and own about 200 of them, my friend who got me into Home Theater and LD, he's got over a 1000 discs and not nearly as nice a player as I'd been able to get. The import HF9G from Japan, I ebayed all the way from California and it was working, then stored then sold, then returned, now with this damn issue that has got me irked!

[pcguytech]

QUOTE (GTAvanja @ Dec 5 2009, 21:36)

QUOTE (Slamman @ Dec 6 2009, 03:08) I was told I'm the only LaserDisc fan and owner here, Well, I do own a few, and I took most of my later model Pioneers apart to work on, I have a gear/sensor issue where I swapped the laser diode assemblies to make sure things were good on that end, then I inspected the gear sync holes for the tray, they seemed good, everything that was visibly wrong I corrected, still, tray and disc load, I get the laser moving to read the media and a horrible clicking results, the gears are mis-aligned. Who nowadays can solve this issue? I'm only thinking a complete transport swap between players is the solution, but if anyone is SMART enough to figure it out, post or PM!! Soon Just switch to DVD or BluRay already, jeez.

HA ha ha! QFT!

Every single topic he brings up the Acer or the Laser disc. Slammy is so entertaining, what would we do with out him? But I think he's the kind of person who really embraces old tech and nothing will change his views on it. DVD and Blu-Ray players are becoming so affordable that anyone can have one in their homes today but do you think he cares? Bring on the Laserdisc and the Betamaxes.

Just a week ago on Black Friday - they had Blu-ray players on sale at Walmarts for $75.00. DVD players are around $20-$29 at BestBuy for the Craig brand, freaking cheap as hell. Anyways! Like I was saying nothing will change Slammy's views on the old tech and why should any one even try to. Is what he likes and we should respect that.

Trust me Slamman would be the guy to call if you ever needed any help getting your old tech to work. I know I would if that was the case.

On topic: What the hell was a Laserdisc anyways! The oldest media format I can recall having was BETAMAX and VHS. I heard of it but never actually owned one. Some say 'Star Trek - The Wrath Of Kahn' was part of their Promotional Campaign at launch.

[Slamman]

It all stems from the desire to have something I couldn't afford, when I got into Laserdisc there was no DVD, baby. Just remember that!!
You can thank CD and DVD because of LD, so it's like blaming the innovation for what you have now, though I thought you LIKED what you have now?!?

[Starion]

Laserdiscs were very good at the time. They're just slightly outdated now when compared to the smaller, digital formats such as DVD's and Blu Rays.

They're still a versatile format today though. I watched a Laserdisc on my dads player a few months back and it was surprisingly impressive.

[Slamman]

My last viewing was Clear and Present Danger I posted in TV/Movies, it looks stellar, not a flaw on it I can see. I mean, people knocking it are just plain idiots, Laserdisc players still make the best CD transports in the World. Well, they can play one hella scratched up CD without missing a beat!

[pcguytech]

QUOTE (Slamman @ Dec 5 2009, 22:13)

It all stems from the desire to have something I couldn't afford, when I got into Laserdisc there was no DVD, baby. Just remember that!! You can thank CD and DVD because of LD, so it's like blaming the innovation for what you have now, though I thought you LIKED what you have now?!?

I'm not complaining about innovation as a matter of fact I embrace it as it gets better and better. I do understand what your saying. Some of the tech we have now is due to old tech from the past in one form or the other, however if we remain with that concept alone how are we suppose to move forward.
Laserdisc even though I never-ed own any, I understand it had a short life span it was crushed by the Format wars of the time Sony Beta-max and VHS. Eventually VHS won. I love today's technology just like I loved yesterdays. I'm not against old tech, but I'm not a fanatic of it like you seem to be.

[Slamman]

I sent you some emails, of course. Thing is, I'm ranting on just the repair and hardship involved, I got two players down at the moment and I have to address them in some manner, and fast, they wanna bill me for the refund on the prior sale! I found these guys WAY out West of me...
http://www.laserdiscservice.com/about.htm

Dropped them a line, They're my new best friends! haha
Yeah, thing is, I owned them after they were affordable, DVD, I bought several and paid big bucks, the ultimate goal, to have the video processing and audio codecs rendered on board, hence, my fav DVD is a Pioneer model as well, it handles SACD and DVD AUDIO as well as DTS and DD surround, all on board! Mighty impressive back in the day.

Line doublers, front and rear projection, all that jazz, it was thousands and thousands of dollars, and now people take it all for granted, I get peeved about it, can't help it. I have respect for all that gear and enjoy using it too.

Ok, an update, I basically spread two internally similar players out on my bed, so I couldn't sleep till I solved this repair of mine. I pulled the laser sections off, I pulled out the disc's upper transport support (the top hub) and now I've pulled the full loading and support section, only two cables go to the main board, well technically three. Whatever the problem was, it's confined to the optical transport I suspect, if not something electrically amiss. I will swap the whole disc tray and support system between the two players. I took photos of this as well, because matching the gear positions is pretty important getting the loading tray back on. If you ever messed with a 5 disc DVD or CD player, you know how that goes!
I've dealt with more then a few, the old 3 disc stacked JVC proved a complete bullocks and I threw it out after holding onto it for far too long, JVC's multiple stacked disc system and Philips as well, I couldn't repair them. The small profile DVD changers are actually easier to repair.

I agree with Pico on those new Intels, they sure are something, but I believe that price is too, $1000 for a CPU is more then anything available I've seen at the local store, The highest was probably around $300 I think

This post has been edited by Slamman on Sunday, Dec 6 2009, 07:20

[Pico]

I see it was moved... but no pin? As I said, it'll help keep this area less cluttered and give us a proper place to BS on things that don't need their own topic.
I think most would agree that I'm not just doing this to go "OMG IM SOOO AWZUM I GOTTA PINND THRED" thing. It just makes sense for us to have a thread like this. I know the Vehicle area has it's own general chat topic, but this area gets a much, much larger amount of "help with this" threads than the vehicle chat does which is why that thread doesn't need pinning. Again, this one will just get pushed down in a week because of help threads.


@Slam, no way $300 is the limit, there's plenty over that. And here's the one I had in mind being around $1,200.
But it's actually "only" $999 at Newegg.com, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115212

[cold fusion 33]

I've got a question, how long are we going to be waiting until we see Octo-Core processors really hitting the consumer market? I remember a topic ages ago by SegaciousKGB about an Octo-Core, and it seemed interesting. I know that Mac's already support and sell them in their Mac Tower thing, but when will PC's really start seeing their power?

[3niX]

Well...

I reported it for pinnage...

Seems like the sensible topic wed need... something aching to the PC gamers topic.



And on topic. Intel has pulled the plug for consumer "Larrabees":
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/12/04/int...uture-variants/

[Slamman]

I meant $300 at the local outlet, used to PC shop at CompUSA here but that's a Staples store now! Another location is vacant.
Sad, sad.

I thought the mods locked this, for closure to the earlier LD posts, I got my best player working again, still makes some odd noise with the tranport like it's nudging the tray with some force, but not enough to rip things apart again, that one LD player cost me $500 off eBay, It's still one of the rarest of the rare! HF9G Pioneer. Just finished another LD movie on it.

I should think with more cores even like 64bit OS, there'll need to be code and software to exploit it. EVen an OS in some regard (as it's software creating the usuable interface with the hardware)

[supermortalhuman]

hey pico, have you looked in your HSF for dust? That sounds way too hot to be just a underpowered heatsync, especially if it didn't have issues long ago?

[Pico]

QUOTE (supermortalhuman @ Dec 6 2009, 07:52)

hey pico, have you looked in your HSF for dust? That sounds way too hot to be just a underpowered heatsync, especially if it didn't have issues long ago?

No, I clean out my PC regular and the HSF isn't bad at all right now... but I've removed it twice with out reapplying thermal paste
Once was on purpose, the other time was because my PC fell and knocked two clips loose. So I'm assuming it's just not transfering heat well. And I'd like to get a whole new HSF because the stock Intel ones, as most agree, suck.

@cold fusion, the Macs you're talking about are actually running two Xeon Quad cores. From my understanding they are optimized as workstations, crunching match and algorithms, things of that nature well. I guess they wouldn't provide as much performance as a normal PC user would expect.
Here's the specs for one: http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html

As for Intel's 8 cores... I'm not too sure. I haven't heard much on them for a long while.
This 6-core being sold through me for a loop... if I've heard anything from Intel about a 6 core it was brief and didn't make an impression, because I don't remember!

[Cursed]

I just had a quick glance at the Wikipedia page for Laserdiscs, and those things were massive. Especially layed next to a DVD.

[pcguytech]

Pico get some Artic Silver Thermal Paste from your local Radio Shack for $10.00 a pop. Apply a generous amount and watch those temps go down. It will smell like sh*t for a day or two, but it'll be worth it at the end.

[Pico]

Lol, yes Laserdiscs are friggin gigantic. Similar to the size of standard records, I believe. And they only spun at something like 400rpm right?

@pcguy, yeah I've decided I'll try and slap some thermal paste on. Hopefully it's right around $10 around here because I'm pretty broke this week
Hopefully it'll drop the temps to a reasonable level...

Edit: Added a poll, please vote!
I voted null btw, so no bias on my end. Keep it fair...

This post has been edited by Pico on Sunday, Dec 6 2009, 22:14