[RearNaked]

What hate, what ignorance? Son, I don't hate anyone. I've been surrounded by a platoon of men who wanted to end me, and I don't even hate them. Infact, I get a great big hard-on when I think about that day!

You can try to be as politically, socially and maybe even grammatically correct as you like, but you probably don't have a clue what it feels like to be running around with hard wood, covered in blood (yours, your buddies, theirs, who knows?) brain , bone, flesh and semen. You don't know, do you, you young schmuck?

[El_Diablo]

QUOTE (RearNaked @ Monday, Jul 2 2012, 15:38)

A big deal is only made of sexism if it's a female or transsexual female complaining about it.

ok well this statement is obviously false.

if you think transgender men are the only ones who cause a controversy in the workplace then you're sorely ignorant of the issue at large.

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I was like "Transsexuals are disgusting, a smack in the face of nature.  If I ever find out anyone I know is a transsexual, I will kill them on the spot." Needless to say,  I was disciplined for sexism by my male boss.

well of course.
what did you expect?

were you joking?
if so, then you were asking to be disciplined. you just said that you already knew this person was a transexual. if you were making a joke then you knew that they would be offended and most likely not get the joke.

were you serious?
if so then you're just a sad human being.

either way you did something stupid.
don't blame your boss or society or the tranny for your stupid action.

[RearNaked]

Of course it was a joke. I don't open throats for stuff like that, cuz. I don't care, pretty much, what anyone does. Provided it doesn't involve me, of course.

I didn't choose to be white or born in this country. I didn't even choose to be a man. I'm not patriotic, I'm not at all proud to be white or a male. I don't like it when people complain about so-called immigrants. I'm a quiet, pretty good, grounded gangster who dabbles in some dark humour and a little violence here and there.

[El_Diablo]

ok so either way you opened your mouth with the intention of being abrasive and knowing full-well that the person you were addressing would likely be offended. don't go blaming society or anyone/thing else for the outcome. that was your poor choice.

[RearNaked]

How is it that you know why I said what I said, what tone I used and how I knew how the transsexual would react? Also, who said I'm blaming anyone for anything?

You seem to be getting quite upset. Perhaps we should agree to disagree, call it quits, etc, etc.

[El_Diablo]

who's upset? not me.
we're just having a discussion.

you just got finished accusing me of assuming things I couldn't know about your tone or demeanor.
now you're assuming things that you couldn't know about mine

do you really not get it?

QUOTE (RearNaked @ Monday, Jul 2 2012, 17:21)

How is it that you know why I said what I said, what tone I used and how I knew how the transsexual would react?

this is totally missing the point.

you knew this person was a transexual.
you must know that being a transexual is unlike being any other class of minority. for a variety of reasons.

and when you decided to crack wise, your choice of words included "a smack in the face of nature" and "I will kill them on the spot."
I don't care how you said it. did you honestly believe they would just chuckle along with you? or know that you were joking?
the only way I can see that happening is if the tranny was also your best friend and knew you very personally and knew beyond the shadow of a doubt that you were only kidding.

I don't see how you can possibly be surprised at being disciplined.
you said this in the workplace. not at the bar during happy hour.

QUOTE

who said I'm blaming anyone for anything?

you did.

you said:
"I was disciplined for sexism by my male boss. It's ridiculous. Sexism is a lot of sh*t. An excuse to keep the man down."

that's you making excuses and not blaming yourself for your blunder.

[blitz]

People have the right to do whatever the hell they want with their bodies, as Tyler said, it is important, at least to most people, to be comfortable with their bodies.

You own your life and body and you decide what to make out of it.

Same thing applies with homosexual marriage, if two consenting adults want to make a lifetime commitment of love to each other, it should be celebrated, not outlawed.