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Grand Theft Auto IV
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DA - AA DISCUSSION, not a war
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ajbns87  |
Posted: Thursday, Oct 4 2012, 21:20
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Boss

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You've got to realise that Henriquosa is talking about disallow from a TDM perspective, and he's been around the block and back, plus when it comes to the best players, he's played with them and knows his stuff. You can play disallow now against the current players of cops n crooks, and it's not that difficult to give them trouble even for a rusty veteran like myself, or a newbie to disallow like yourself. They don't compare to players of the past, and they definitely don't compare to the better players that used to play TDM.
I remember once or twice, some of these better players of TDM trying Cops N Crooks for a change, and they were unbelievably good, not entirely sure if they were legitimately good players, but I remember one in the clan HOMICID3 being kicked out for being too good on one occasion.
Anyways it doesn't matter which aim preference is more 'skilled', it's unquestionable that disallow is more enjoyable and quicker paced.
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D565656666  |
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I mod? Stfu noob. I use turbo? Stfu noob. I lag hard? Stfu noob.

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| QUOTE (Crimson Flam3s @ Friday, Oct 5 2012, 00:50) | Once I played against D56 in another acc and he kept killing some newbs in his same team in 1 for all, lol thank god I was observing so next round I was prepared and gave him a taste of his own medicine No offence btw | You gave me a taste of my own medicine? Lol, i'd like to see that, but when i'm surrounded by 4 teammates shooting at me its not easy to stay alive What was your secret account? Maybe i will remember you... I'm not offensed at all, i like competition but if i Knew it was you maybe i wouldnt have tryed to kill u? I teamkill these Guys because i ask them nicely to change team because i want to play with my friends and They reply me " f*ck you " or some sh*ts lol, so i kill them and They quit. When you Guys Kick people out a game, i teamkill. But sometimes some noobs are cool, nice guys so i let them play with me, and sometimes i add them. Anyway, long time i havnt see you in CNC, maybe we could have a game?
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Crimson Flam3s  |
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You are good, but not good enough!

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Mm9090  |
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I took the Blue pill

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Ah I see the problem here Henri, I play cnc not tdm. To be honest i find tdm rather boring and monotonous in both AA and DA. i have played a few tdm games but I never met a really good player, the hardest opponent was this insane lagger  I wouldn't mind getting in a TW game although its really not my thing, 1 time i played against these high ranks with blips off and kept getting killed by grenades  rly annoying!! It seems that ur right AJ, I haven't met any rly good opponents in DA so far, I only started playing gta in late 2010 so I wouldn't know of "the days of old"  Yes I agree that it is more enjoyable if u manage to find a decent room. I think a good compromise would be if you couldn't lock on to players who are in a car, making it possible for drive-bys. Lol haha i hate it wen high ranks go for the noobs instead of the other good players  they got the lead by doing that! Then wen the noobs quit they tried to surround me (i was a crook) i got 4 kills b4 they got me!! Then I ran for it and we won by like $100, I think u drowned right?! I was coming with the gv!! D56 is one of my best gta friends, I also kill noobs and its not because we're "noobkillers" its because noobs can piss u off so much!!! They're all damn glory hunters, they'll join our team even if it makes the teams 8 vs 1 cos they wanna win, I ask them nicely to move and they reply "f*ck u"! They're like retarded sheep, im a peaceful guy but noobs make me crave blood  so I kill them, im sure D56 does it for this reason too. Also wen i let them live you have no idea how many times they try run me over cos i won't get in their car!! Hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot! We're all for teaching noobs to play and if some1s nice to us we'll be nice back, let them play on our team. I remember we took this 1 player under our wing and taught him to play, suddenly he thinks he's the best and can surpass his masters, its safe to say he got owned xD haven't seen him since! Most noobs r like this which is why we spare no1 unless we have a reason to spare them!
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D565656666  |
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I mod? Stfu noob. I use turbo? Stfu noob. I lag hard? Stfu noob.

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| QUOTE (Mm9090 @ Monday, Oct 8 2012, 09:03) | Ah I see the problem here Henri, I play cnc not tdm. To be honest i find tdm rather boring and monotonous in both AA and DA. i have played a few tdm games but I never met a really good player, the hardest opponent was this insane lagger I wouldn't mind getting in a TW game although its really not my thing, 1 time i played against these high ranks with blips off and kept getting killed by grenades rly annoying!!
It seems that ur right AJ, I haven't met any rly good opponents in DA so far, I only started playing gta in late 2010 so I wouldn't know of "the days of old" Yes I agree that it is more enjoyable if u manage to find a decent room.
I think a good compromise would be if you couldn't lock on to players who are in a car, making it possible for drive-bys. Lol haha i hate it wen high ranks go for the noobs instead of the other good players they got the lead by doing that! Then wen the noobs quit they tried to surround me (i was a crook) i got 4 kills b4 they got me!! Then I ran for it and we won by like $100, I think u drowned right?! I was coming with the gv!!
D56 is one of my best gta friends, I also kill noobs and its not because we're "noobkillers" its because noobs can piss u off so much!!! They're all damn glory hunters, they'll join our team even if it makes the teams 8 vs 1 cos they wanna win, I ask them nicely to move and they reply "f*ck u"! They're like retarded sheep, im a peaceful guy but noobs make me crave blood so I kill them, im sure D56 does it for this reason too. Also wen i let them live you have no idea how many times they try run me over cos i won't get in their car!! Hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot! We're all for teaching noobs to play and if some1s nice to us we'll be nice back, let them play on our team. I remember we took this 1 player under our wing and taught him to play, suddenly he thinks he's the best and can surpass his masters, its safe to say he got owned xD haven't seen him since! Most noobs r like this which is why we spare no1 unless we have a reason to spare them! | <3 im flattered, why u Never tell me this in chatrooms? Lol Yea the problem with noobs Is that they are always stalking you because They dont want to lose, even when you message them and ask them nicely to change team because teams are not equilibrated They just dont care and yes, sometimes insult you just because you asked them to change team, some Guys take this game too seriously, and yes thats the reason why i teamkill them, not because im having fun to teamkill people... And when u let them live because u had a moment of weakness They try to kill you  so, unfortunately, the Only thing to do Is killing them... After, sometimes i see cheaters or haters joining my team so, in that case im having fun to teamkill them, because They deserve to Die  also trying to teach them the respect, thats just a game ffs, who cares about who Is the best? Thats pointless... Anyway, ive got an idea, maybe They should include that in gta5, in my opinion Rockstar should give us the right to lock our teams in games, just like squads, so, in that case nobody Will annoy you by switching in your team because it wont be possible, what do u think about it?
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madri_the_rock_wwe  |
Posted: Wednesday, Oct 10 2012, 10:52
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Player Hater

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Joined: Oct 10, 2012

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| QUOTE (Henriquosa @ Wednesday, Oct 3 2012, 12:21) | | QUOTE (Mm9090 @ Wednesday, Oct 3 2012, 09:54) | Yes, i have been playing only disallow for over 2 weeks now, I started this topic because I usually play AA but I have made the jump to DA which puts me in a good position to comment on both. Well basically it is isn't it? Strafing and using ur surroundings are also important but honestly its not hard. Against good players, yes, its harder but from my experiences killing them does not require "amazing aim", either these players aren't actually good players at all or u r over exaggerating. The only players i find hard to kill r laggers! On AA u can also be double teamed. In DA if ur double teamed from both sides ur basically screwed but if they're coming from one direction and friendly fire is on u can basically use 1 of them for cover and actually manage to kill them both, but yes i agree that u can be rushed and need to react quickly. Again ur generalizing with regards to auto aimers, it took me only 3 games to get adjusted to DA, its different yes but not rocket science! Yes ur right, DA has far more variety in the killing sense. People do hide a lot on AA but its not like all players simply stay static, u have to think tactically and move around to new cover til u get 1 chance and kill ur opponent. The shooting part is easy, yes, but outsmarting a good AA player is not. And with the rush part i agree that that takes much more skill and is one of the reasons i enjoy DA. I was just referring to how 80% of high ranking DA players accuse ppl of turbo wenever they r killed i still maintain that the tactical side of AA is harder than DA while basically everything else in DA makes it harder. But i still don't feel that DA is VERY hard, ppl seem to build it up a little too much |
I know a lot about autoaim, I used to play it competitively on the highest level when all those "autoaim legends" still played, even had most of them in my clan. All really good disallow players retired 1-2 years ago and I'd say the only good ones left are the TW players, although they're not as good as oldschool players. And you won't find any good legit players in TDMs anymore, just turbo people who used to be smashed when there were no turbos. Even with turbos most of them got beaten by very good legit players. And I'm not exaggerating, there were people who sniped as if they had had a lock on. They killed you with the glock pistol in their first two shots. You won't find players like that anymore because they all moved on from GTA.
Disallow is only hard if you play good people. I went flawless whenever I played newbies unless they ran me over but this doesn't mean disallow is easy. Play a good (good, not even very good) team or good players and I can guarantee you won't get past 4-5 kills and die 25+ times. They'll murder you making you hide but you'll notice hiding doesn't work. You'll try to shoot back a couple of times but you'll give up because you die every time. This is what disallow is like. On autoaim you get respawned, can get an assault rifle and can just camp and kill people from behind. This is unthinkable on disallow when you play against good players. They'll turn around and kill you., you'll get desperate and give up.
Well, if you think disallow is not very tactical we can set up a game, I know a couple of TW players who would love to play someone standard Bohan. Bring 4 people and I'll set it up. They play quite tactically. |
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