[jpm1]

i think both ends are bad to show that criminal way won't ever pay . but i heard , never experienced it myself , that if you still play for a while Roman and Kate call you on the phone

[Gtaghost22]

Sorry for bumbing this, but after finishing IV's story for the 6th time i have to say it's Revenge, i know Niko can be greedy sometimes but he would never "make up" with Dimitri after he betrayed him, i know how Niko thinks and he is not stupid, he knows Dimitri will betray him again anyway, he can't be trusted, and what about Roman's Taxi depot appearing in Chinatown Wars (2009)? i think it might indicate that Revenge is the real ending.

Edit: After reading alot of posts, i'm not really sure anymore, but i still think it's Revenge, Packie leaving Liberty City has nothing to do with it, his mother still got Derrick to take care of her, he is an addict i know, but maybe he changed? Or maybe Francis was supposed to live?

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even though everyone hates Kate.

I don't, i just like Roman more..

This post has been edited by Gtaghost22 on Thursday, Sep 6 2012, 01:56

[junkpile]

QUOTE (ccrogers15 @ Monday, Nov 7 2011, 19:20)

What is the correct ending for GTA IV? Cause i dont know which is really Canon: Revenge: Kate dies Deal: Roman dies Which is correct? Thanks in advance.

Your choice. Both endings make sense in their own way. R* answered this very question in a Q & A, too.


SPOILER ALERT - “Kill or spare Ivan Bytchkov? Kill or spare Cherise Glover? Kill Playboy X or Dwayne Forge? Kill or spare Clarance Little? Kill Francis McReary or Derrick McReary? Kill or spare Darko Brevic?
Take the deal or get revenge? I know what I'd do but I wanna know what [Niko] would do. You designed him so you know him better than I do.” – Mike Sean Clifton

That’s a very interesting question. The choices that you make in Grand Theft Auto IV while in the shoes of Niko Bellic are completely down to personal preference. Your conscience and curiosity help Niko to make decisions throughout the game, so we really don’t have a straight and true path for how the Niko ‘character’ would react in life or death situations – it’s all down to the individual who plays him, and our hope was to have a fairly even split in all of the choices, so they seemed like real dilemmas. In terms of outcomes (something Niko would not know at the time) there is a ‘best pathway’ which is the sort of thing we reveal when we do a tips post, but that is from a pure game design / mechanics perspective as some choices give you more advantages than others, not from the choices Niko might make at the time. Those are up to you.


However, here's my latest choice of canon:

1. Sparing IVAN BYTCHKOV
2. Sparing CHERISE GLOVER
3. Killing PLAYBOY X
4. Killing FRANCIS MCREARY
5. Sparing DARKO BREVIC

6. Taking revenge on DIMITRI RASCALOV

I also spare Clarence only to KILL him later in a substory.

[dragon_goran_mijo]

Deal was the most emotional to both the player and Niko. Seeing his best friend, his BROTHER, they grew up like brothers, just get eradicated in a matter of seconds, is horrifying to Niko.

[matajuegos]

sorry for bumping this but I've completed IV for the 3rd time and I think Deal was the original ending, if you listen to the conversation that happens while you are chasing one of dimitri's goons on the highway ("a revenger's tragedy" mission) you'll listen that Niko says to LJ that dimitri was not the problem anymore, that he didn't care about him anymore, but he killed roman in his wedding day so this went serious, that means that he didn't have the plan of killing dimitri anymore, also the encounter with darko made him reconsider the things.

[junkpile]

R* already said that there is NO CORRECT ENDING. It's up to the players. Both endings work in their own ways.

[Dr. Robotnik]

Although I've been very supportive of the Deal ending in past posts, and consider it the better one, I actually can make an argument for the Revenge ending as well.

Although it's easy, and not unfounded, to say Niko does the deal for Roman, for the most part what the dialogue gives as Niko's motivation is money and greed, not forgiveness or love for his family.

1. Roman (whose mishandling of finances is a running theme throughout the game) completely disregards Dimitri's destruction of his home and business in favor of the opportunity for luxury, and in his texts emphasizes "money, fast cars, women"; things Niko should realize by this point are only shallow pipe dreams.

2. Niko says that the deal "would make things easier, for me and for Roman", which does sound like he's trying to do right by his cousin, but also that he's taking the easy way out.

3. Phil even goes so far as to call back to Darko selling out his friends; "Money makes people do the strangest things, don't it?"

So while Niko does let go of his past and try to help Roman by taking the Deal, he also lets go of things from his past that he should remember, because they're still relevant, and his continued enabling of Roman's self-destructive lifestyle results in something he finally can't save him from; death.

Furthermore, while the game does claim Niko should let go of his past, that's generally not what the more "moral" choices in the game involve doing, with the exception of Darko. Playboy X is completely right when he says that Dwayne "thinks it's 1992, and the best you can get is a gold chain and a pager". The guy's trapped in his past (and the past) as bad as Niko is, if not worse; his introducion has him expecting Playboy X to just drop the life he's achieved for himself, and "roll" with him again. Yet the game goes far out of its way to place killing him as the greedy, immoral, choice. Same thing with Derrick; guy's trapped in his past too, but killing him is also mostly considered immoral.



This post has been edited by Dr. Robotnik on Sunday, Jan 13 2013, 12:41