[universetwisters]

"Our Ugly World" is an upcoming total conversion for Rockstar Game's "Grand Theft Auto IV", that takes place in the small Virignian town of Virginia and it's surrounding countryside featuring abandoned mines and forests full of secrets. The player is put in the shoes of Will Bauer, a loyal and wise gun runner with a bad case of ostalgie and an obesssion with model trains from Germany who wishes to rise the criminal ladder. The story will give the player the chance to join Will and his gang of misfits as they build a criminal empire from the ground up, with the help of with the help of Jamie Bauer, Will's hacker brother, Trey Stevens, Will's former roomate, Jack, the leader of a gang of misfit bikers, and Craig Miller, a small-time drug dealer.

Not only the player is introduced to a new city and a colorful cast of characters, but they are also introduced to a ton of new vehicles, such as the Vapid Coravelle, a powerful muscle car from the 1970s, the Croatie 3C, a cheap, lightweight motorbike imported from Croatia, the Mesa Algonquin, a compact SUV perfect for offroading, and the Vulcar Cascade, a luxurious sedan imported from Germany, just to name a few. There are also new weapons in the mod, replacing all of IV's original weapons, such as the Milwaukee Slugger baseball bat staight outta Milwaukee, the silent and stealthy MAC-10, and the powerful and deadlySPAS-12. Of course, we need some good music to listen to while we rise to the top, right? There's a whole new range of radio stations in OUW, such as Richmond Rock Nation, broadcasting some of the best grunge music straight out of the 1990s, Raver Soundystem, pumping some of the best nightcore through your speakers, and SSTR, a talk radio station with one unlucky host and a ton of angry callers.


WANTED!!
*Character Modellers
*Voice Actors
*SCO Scripters

Where do I fit into all of this?

As you can see, a project of this size would take a while to complete with only one or two people working on it. Therefore, we would need a team. So if you feel like taking part in this groundbreaking project, let us know. So far, we have:

*universetwisters - Leader, Planner, QA
*Frank.s - Scripter, 3D modelling
*ALMOST610 - Vehicle modelling
*Azio_Junior - Vehicle modelling
*69_black_69 - Character Modeling
*John Wyckoff - Buildings & Terrain
*lumpy.flippy - Buildings
*Steff R - Buildings
*MrSmarter22 - Buildings
*MegaMario1500 - Textures
*RoadRunner71 - Textures
*Chris_Lolwut - Weapons
*Bipin (Not on the forums) - Building/Structure 3D Modeller
*A very special thanks to Onepiece, who let us convert his III HD vehicles into the mod!

Cast

*MrSmarter22 - (AFAWK) Will Bauer
*[b]Claude94 - Trey Stevens
*NikoGTA4 - OR-Bit FM DJ
*Coat. - Aura FM DJ and Dialogue

We recruit anybody who can do anything, from converting to models to coding, drop us a line! Comments, constructive criticisms and opinions appreciated.


Development Blogs
*October 14, 2012

Screenshots







We recruit anybody who can do anything, from converting to models to coding, drop us a line! Comments, constructive criticisms and opinions appreciated.

This post has been edited by universetwisters on Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 13:26

[Frank.s]

This post has been edited by Frank.s on Saturday, Aug 11 2012, 11:05

[universetwisters]

Will's Model In-Game





This post has been edited by universetwisters on Sunday, Sep 16 2012, 02:42

[nkjellman]

I think Rockstar stated that Carcer City is supposed to be like Chicago in the GTA Universe. I'm not 100% on this. However I'm sure Rockstar would base it off a real city. I think Chicago would be a good city to base it off of. I wouldn't make something that is totally made up. I think it would be cool to see a real city made. But I like this idea so far and I wish you the best luck.

[Ash_735]

I heard more Detroit and Philly.

[nkjellman]

QUOTE (Ash_735 @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 22:11)

I heard more Detroit and Philly.

Seems logical. However Rockstar usually focuses on the bigger cities. Chicago would be more interesting than those.

[ManDog]

You're both just saying the 3 cities that GTA3 is based off lol.

[Blaster_nl]

QUOTE (ManDog @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 00:14)

You're both just saying the 3 cities that GTA3 is based off lol.

Don't forget NYC, on Stuanton you can clearly see some things.

[universetwisters]

QUOTE (nkjellman @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 22:05)

I think Rockstar stated that Carcer City is supposed to be like Chicago in the GTA Universe. I'm not 100% on this. However I'm sure Rockstar would base it off a real city. I think Chicago would be a good city to base it off of. I wouldn't make something that is totally made up. I think it would be cool to see a real city made. But I like this idea so far and I wish you the best luck.

I remember in GTA 3, the Lips 106 DJ said that Carcer was "nearby" Liberty City, so making the assumption that III-Era Liberty City is based on New York, then that would be pretty silly, especially given the fact that in IV, Carcer City is about 50-100 miles from Liberty (If I remember correctly). There's a lot of factors, though, such as if you're going in a straight line, taking roads, etc. XD

However, I'll take your Chicago idea into consideration, given the fact that I'm trying to make Carcer City based on numerous rust-belt cities (Chicago being on the list). Thanks, though!

[nkjellman]

QUOTE (ManDog @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 22:14)

You're both just saying the 3 cities that GTA3 is based off lol.

I'm talking about cities that are more heavily focused on one city. III wasn't heavily based on any of those places, like VC was to Miami, and SA is to the areas of Las Vegas, San Francisco, and Las Angles. That same applies for IV and New York and Jersey City.

I think it would be interesting to see Carcer City put together into a city that looks much like Chicago.

Edit: Saw your post. Want me to post some photos to help?

[universetwisters]

QUOTE (nkjellman @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 22:19)

QUOTE (ManDog @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 22:14) You're both just saying the 3 cities that GTA3 is based off lol. I'm talking about cities that are more heavily focused on one city. III wasn't heavily based on any of those places, like VC was to Miami, and SA is to the areas of Las Vegas, San Francisco, and Las Angles. That same applies for IV and New York and Jersey City. I think it would be interesting to see Carcer City put together into a city that looks much like Chicago. Edit: Saw your post. Want me to post some photos to help?

Photos to help with the mod, or for comparison? I'm basing Carcer City off a bunch of different Rust Belt cities, such as Buffalo, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, etc.

[Ash_735]

Well back in the day before we had Rockstars new explanation, Liberty City was assumed to be New York, and "Near by Carcer City" was assumed to be New Jersey.

Both of those are retconned out now! And since Manhunt is in the past before this retcon, I say base it on the old ideas.

[nkjellman]

QUOTE (Ash_735 @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 22:37)

Well back in the day before we had Rockstars new explanation, Liberty City was assumed to be New York, and "Near by Carcer City" was assumed to be New Jersey. Both of those are retconned out now! And since Manhunt is in the past before this retcon, I say base it on the old ideas.

Carcer City could even be Washington DC. But in Manhunt, it looked a lot like Chicago to me.

[universetwisters]

QUOTE (Ash_735 @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 22:37)

And since Manhunt is in the past before this retcon, I say base it on the old ideas.

Exactly, that's why I'm basing it on Numerous Rust Belt Cities rather than a single city, like how GTA 3 was based on Numerous Northeast Cities.

[sibs44]

I wouldn't be surprised if Rockstar made a GTA game in the future that is set in Carcer and basing it on Chicago.

[Death2Drugs]

I'd say Carcer City is more or less based on Camden, New Jersey.

If it is, that would technically put Carcer City in Alderney.

[nkjellman]

QUOTE (Death2Drugs @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 05:17)

I'd say Carcer City is more or less based on Camden, New Jersey. If it is, that would technically put Carcer City in Alderney.

Yes. That is why I think Carcer City should be based on Chicago. Alderny is based on Jersy City. However if you want, you can do a mix of Chicago and Detroit, but I think just Chicago would be better. After making III's map, Rockstar did their cities after one city, which seemed to be more interesting in my opinion. This has been demonstrated especially in GTA IV, and most likely will be in GTA V. Anyways, here are some pics if your interested.



And some more good pics that are large and I don't feel like resizing.
http://racingsquirrel.com/images/A00305g_Chicago.jpg
http://www.a1chicagomovers.com/images/chic..._march2006c.jpg
http://www.ironworkersmc.com/Chicago/image...cagoSkyline.jpg

This post has been edited by nkjellman on Friday, Aug 3 2012, 06:45

[MinnieMan121249]

QUOTE (GTAWiki)

Being an extreme caricature of a Rust Belt city, Carcer City appears to have taken inspiration from Camden, NJ; Flint, MI; East St Louis, IL; Gary, IN; and Detroit, MI.

There. You have your source locations now. Although I think if you're gonna map a fictional place based off of real locations,
you should improvise and create from your imagination MORE than you try and recreate landmarks or anything that would resemble real life places.

Illusion Softworks made it look easy as pie in Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven. The map is AMAZING.

[LT_vVheris]

Just a few questions. Does the leader have modeling/mod/game making experience? Does this thing have map plan, references? Why are you starting by modeling quite detailed buildings when you havent started/shown how the street/landscape layout looks/is like.

[Frank.s]

Understandable, All plans for all aspects of the mod are here btw.
Right now UniverseTwisters doesn't have any IV modding knowledge so he's totally focused around planning all aspects of the game (he's getting a better pc soon so might start then). I've seen plenty of mod teams where the leader is just telling the modders what to do without contributing in-game work and i can see the negativity of that method, however in this situation it should be do-able, if you have doubts then stick around to see how the mod progresses. We have a very early draft of the map-plan but it's not worth showing yet, it'll probably be posted when it's done. We're modeling a bunch of buildings which can be placed in the road-network and terrain of the city, which hasn't been modeled yet.

This post has been edited by Frank.s on Friday, Aug 3 2012, 09:56