[Ben]

Well, the "poll" we held a fair while ago determined several VC features that we'd be including in LC - these are outlined below:

RESULTS OF POLL - WHICH VC FEATURES TO INCLUDE IN THE OFFICIAL VERSION OF LC?

Feature	To Be Included...	Notes	Done?
The Hunter	One at Phil's Army Barracks after 100 hidden packages, and one near the Triad Fish Factory at Atlantic Quays after 100%	Normal rewards for hidden packages as per GTA3 still in place. New cheat to spawn the Hunter in-game to be added.	Yes
VC Weapons	As a reward for 100% at various locations around the city	GTA3 weapons at hideout as well (as per GTA3 hidden package rewards). Teargas functionality has to be changed to give it damaging properties as per the PS2 version of VC.	Mostly - the code has been added to the SCM, but commented out until an EXE hack to increase the number of pickups available in-game can be increased to accommodate the extra weapons. Teargas functionality still to be corrected.
Double Health & Armour	After 100%	As per VC	Yes
Minor VC Features	Left as is	No helicopters until SSV is unlocked, windscreens breakable, tyres poppable, motorcycles available throughout the game, player fireproof after 100% complete, etc. Make sure that the rewards from vigilante, paramedic, fire fighter, taxi missions are the same as GTA3	Yes
Interiors	As per SteaVor's discretion	A decision won't be made until I've seen them in-game.	Marco's Bistro Interior, the only interior finished so far, has been included in v7test4
Fast Reload Ability	After 100%	Player is given the fast reload ability after completing LC 100%	Yes

The above features are the ones chosen to be included in the official version of LC. Any others will become unofficial mods if people choose to make them. See this post in the Unofficial Mods topic for a full list of suggestions that came about as a result of the poll.

The other thing that needs to be done is to change the SCM to make the Faggio cruise on Portland - this involves editing the section that defines car class zones.

This post has been edited by SteaVor on Thursday, Dec 20 2007, 18:03

[SteaVor]

I don't think it's possible to create so many pickups that every hideout gets all III and VC weapons, so there's some selection to be made as to which weapons are to be spawned at each hideout.
Extra weapon locations could be inspired by LCS locations.
The remaining features are self-explanatory. Did you talk with Craig as to which of the features have already been coded in (and to which extent) by him?

Teargas emulation sounds possible because all the visual effects seem to work properly. I suppose that health drop and so on could very well be emulated.

[Konstantinos]

QUOTE (SteaVor @ May 5 2007, 08:48)

I don't think it's possible to create so many pickups that every hideout gets all III and VC weapons, so there's some selection to be made as to which weapons are to be spawned at each hideout.

Exactly. That's why my VC weapons in LC has the VC weapon spawns split among all 3 hideouts, SA style. Like I said, anyone feel free to use that code in the official SCM. It will spare you 5 minutes of work, pinpointing the coordinates

[Ben]

No, I haven't talked to Craig about it. I don't think he did any of it, and I doubt he'd remember now. He's not very reliable any more . But on the other hand, I'm really happy for him that he's so happy with Kassie. He's such a lucky guy.



I'll have to check Kon's weapon mod out to see what he's got where, but it would seem like a pretty good starting point .

The only other to check really is the hunter locations - the double health/armour and minor VC features are already taken care of by default. Interiors is self-explanatory.

Thanks for the feedback .

This post has been edited by Craig Kostelecky on Saturday, May 5 2007, 12:04

[Jony.]

make bikes roaming like LCS specially in Portland...
weapons pickups??? maybe like LCS


NOTE: FFS i can type this?? free.roaming??

This post has been edited by Jony92 on Saturday, May 5 2007, 19:27

[Ben]

lol, I love that word filter - makes for some funny reading. I'm talking about the one that changes free.roam to pony farm .

The issue of what exactly to do with the bikes was discussed and all-but-finalised around September last year. I actually took a look at my old chat logs to figure out the reasons why Craig made the decisions he did - initially, he was going to go with an LCS-style setup, because that's the way R* intended it to be (for those of you who, like me, have never played LCS, this style of setup would involve bikes driving around in traffic (including on Portland) and sportscars still only appearing on Staunton and SSV). However, he decided to scrap that idea and add more parked bikes around the city - I can't find a mention of why, although I suspect he was just too lazy . I don't think anything was done about it at all though - can anyone confirm this?

Anyways, taking all that into account, I'm more inclined to go with an LCS-style setup, but modified slightly - instead of having ALL bikes driving around in Portland, I think we should just have Faggios (which would fit in with it being the crap part of town). Once you reach Staunton though, all bikes would be driving around in traffic (as with sportscars). Also, to keep people happy, I think we should have one of each of the bikes parked somewhere in Portland - the following is a list I came up with a while ago, but I still think it's appropriate:

• A Faggio parked at Misty's Apartment
• A PCJ in Easy Credit Autos, next to the Banshee
• A Sanchez at the Supa Save near the docks (replacing the existing PCJ) near the Patriot
• A Freeway at the hall near the Callahan Bridge (the building used in The Fuzz Ball - replacing the existing PCJ)
• An Angel in the carpark of the building (sorry, forget the name of it) where you pick up the Manana for Dead Skunk In The Trunk

Obviously, I'm open to other suggestions as well, but you'll have to do a fair bit to convince me to change from this proposed setup .

@Craig - Glad to hear mate . Also, it's good to see you still pop around occassionally.

For those who don't know what I'm talking about, see the edit by line in my last post (two above this one).

[SteaVor]

QUOTE (Ben @ May 5 2007, 13:28)

the double health/armour and minor VC features are already taken care of by default.

Sure? I didn't find anything in the code that increases max health/armor based on 100% completion, just some code that does this when the DEBUG var is set to 1. There are currently no rewards for 100% completion.

[Craig Kostelecky]

Double car damage and infinite ammo is done by the exe. The rest (health, armor, etc.) will have to be coded in an scm thread.

[[CTD]LaBan]

i'd recommend LC to have VC particle effects (txd's). They are more detailed than gta3 ones.
Like shadows under cars etc.

[Ben]

QUOTE (Craig Kostelecky @ May 6 2007, 18:30)

Double car damage and infinite ammo is done by the exe. The rest (health, armor, etc.) will have to be coded in an scm thread.

Really? Wow - I thought it was all done by the EXE, which is why I assumed it was done automatically .

Meh, it shouldn't be too difficult to do anyway.

With regards to the particle effects - I'm happy with them as they are now - I don't see the need to change them. It just seems like unnecessary work.

[Konstantinos]

QUOTE (Ben @ May 6 2007, 07:06)

Obviously, I'm open to other suggestions as well, but you'll have to do a fair bit to convince me to change from this proposed setup

Well then, should I make myself useful and code it?

[Ben]

Yes . If you'd like to, that'd be great.

Would you mind grabbing some screenies to show the results of your coding in-game too?

[Konstantinos]

Done - that was easy I'll send you compiled SCM, code and the pictures by email.

[Ben]

Thanks.

Do you want to try your hand at fixing up the Hunter spawning stuff (assuming it hasn't already been done) and/or the double health/armour issue? Or is that a bit more complicated (pardon my ignorance but my excuse is that I'm not an SCM'er )?



EDIT - That would leave only the weapons and interiors (which I have to check out before we can move on), as well as the minor features, which need to be checked (most are fine, but some may have issues, such as the availability of helicopters, GTA3 rewards for vigilante/paramedic/firefighter/taxi/hidden packages (except for 100 packages, which gives you the Hunter as well as the correct GTA3 feature), etc.).

This post has been edited by Ben on Sunday, May 6 2007, 12:14

[SteaVor]

The increasing health and armor are already in the code - a search for max_health takes you right to the spot. This just has to be duplicated and tweaked a little. Kon has most probably taken care of that already.

EDIT: There's no thread right now that enables rewards after 100% completion (such as the health/armor thing), Kon. It's (nearly) the same for the Hunter issue - it's already in the code, but only triggered by activating a DEBUG var.

This post has been edited by SteaVor on Sunday, May 6 2007, 12:18

[Konstantinos]

QUOTE (SteaVor @ May 6 2007, 13:15)

The increasing health and armor are already in the code - a search for max_health takes you right to the spot. This just has to be duplicated and tweaked a little. Kon has most probably taken care of that already.

Nope - that's just the increase to 250 when debug is on Like I said, I'll try to add it. Just don't expect it to be as quickly as the bikes spawn

@ben - lol, this is starting to look like an IM log feel free to delete my posts if you're going to do a cleanup

This post has been edited by Konstantinos on Sunday, May 6 2007, 12:26

[SteaVor]

Yeah, that's what I meant with tweaking - the 100% thread (that has to be created) should also contain these lines, because the health/armor increase is part of the reward. Could you post a download link for the current code or somehow pass it my way? (It's based on the Feb 22 version, I suppose?)


EDIT: I'm impressed by the HUGE posting frequency - the thread turns into a chatroom.

EDIT2: Oh, we're sharing the same thoughts, Konstantinos!!

This post has been edited by SteaVor on Sunday, May 6 2007, 12:26

[Claude GTA3]

How 'bout buyable properties?

[Ben]

I've answered that question of yours once before. To refresh your memory, the answer was "no".

[SteaVor]

Here is Kon's package, just for reference.

I've completed a 100% thread (to be found at Label100Reward), max health and armor are increased by 50 (as per VC) and Claude gets full health and armor; the notification message is displayed. The Hunter spawns at the Triad Fish Factory.

Current code:

CODE

:Label100Reward 03A4: name_thread "100REW"   058C: $PERCENTAGE = percentage_completed :LabelPCSniffer         0001: wait  250 ms 00D6: if  0 0022:   100.0 > $PERCENTAGE   004D: jump_if_false ££LabelGiveRewards 058C: $PERCENTAGE = percentage_completed 0002: jump ££LabelPCSniffer :LabelGiveRewards   0001: wait 0 ms 00D6: if 0 0256:   player $PLAYER_CHAR defined 004D: jump_if_false ££LabelGiveRewards ;055B: $548 = create_clothes_pickup  12 at -382.6 -585.9  25.3 ;03E5: text_box "c*ntY";; New clothes delivered to the Vercetti Estate! 055E: set_player $PLAYER_CHAR max_health +=  50 055F: set_player $PLAYER_CHAR max_armour +=  50 035E: set_player $PLAYER_CHAR armour_to  250 0222: set_player $PLAYER_CHAR health_to  250 03E5: text_box "HELP61";; You now have limitless ammo and double health on all vehicles. 014C: set_parked_car_generator $CAR15 cars_to_generate_to 101 //Hunter at Atlantic Quays 004E: end_thread

(The * has to be replaced with 'u' of course)

I've included the T-Shirt code just in case (could be a nice finishing touch to let it spawn somewhere).
Anything else that should happen at 100%?



Download the current script!


EDIT: Removed the unnecessary WAIT line, the download has been updated. Please re-download.

This post has been edited by SteaVor on Sunday, May 6 2007, 16:11