QUOTE (austinkopeck @ Thursday, Aug 16 2012, 13:18)
How about all the bridges being open in The Lost and Damned when "Clean and Serene" occurs around the same time as "Shadow" and "Final Destination", although Algonquin is unlocked after "The Puerto Rican Connection" and Alderney is unlocked after "Three Leaf Clover" in GTA IV.
TLaD and TBoGT are only DLCs and not full games. They each are roughly 20 missions each, which pretty much forces Rockstar to leave the entire city open from the very beginning. GTA IV is a regular full game, with new islands opening up as you progress through the story.
I don't know if this is relevant anymore but I just chucked my GTA disc in and I've just gone past that point so you can hear it all over the radio. They clearly say that the fire marshalls suspected arson even if they put it down to an electrical fire.
After "That special someone" and I Let Darko live I got a text during the deal/revenge choice from roman saying "Killing Darko didn't solve anything" despite not having killed him. possibly a one of bug but i found it curious.
@ elizebeta/EFLC - i look at it as an "alternate" storyline - almost as though each of the 3 storylines take place in alternate timelines. I know it's a cop out, and i'm just ignoring it, but i hadn't actually noticed the elzibeta thing before.
@Miamivicecity - bulgarin's a big fish. I suspect that Michelle/Karen's assignment on Niko was connected to him. I think bulgarin either staged his death or was believed to be dead, so he could use alternate identities to enter the country easier.
I hope V has better chronology structure. GTA IV, RDR - both games suffer from the problem that if you don't do missions in a very specific order, the conversations often make little or no sense. That should be addressed i think, with alternate conversations/cutscenes for missions.
I have a theory regarding the bridges being open in TLaD. This may contain spoilers but I'm pretty sure most of us have done the DLC's. Clean and Serene Final Destination Angels in America No Love Lost Rigged to Blow It's War Search and Delete The Master and the Molotov Russian Revolution Roman's Sorrow Action/Reaction Easy as Can Be Escuela of the Streets Street Sweeper Luck of the Irish *Algonquin is open as you need to get to Bohan from Algonquin to start Buyer's Market* Buyer's Market Blow Your Cover Out of the Closet... Puerto Rican Connection Call and Collect The Snow Storm Have a Heart Liberty City Choppers Deconstruction For Beginners Final Interview... Harboring a Grudge Bad Cop Drop Waste Not Want Knots ...Final Interview Three Leaf Clover *Alderney open so Johnny can go to Stubbs' missions in Algonquin* Politics Photo Shoot Ruff Rider Coming Down Undress to Kill The Holland Play Off Route A Long Way to Fall This Sh*t's Cursed Actions Speak Louder Than Words Hit the Pipe I Need Your Clothes, Your Boots, and Your Motorcycle End of Chapter Wrong is Right Bad Standing Heavy Toll Portrait of a Killer Marta Full of Grace Dust Off Shifting Weight Paper Trail Diamonds in the Rough Taking in the Trash Meltdown Roman's Holiday Smackdown Babysitting Museum Piece Collector's Item Tunnel of Death Hostile Negotiation Was it Worth It? Weekend at Florian's Get Lost Late Checkout That should seal it. But I can't explain how the Hickey Bridge would be open before Algonquin is unlocked in IV so that's all I can think of. I would've put Niko doing Elizabeta's last two missions while Johnny's doing Elizabeta's three because of her paranoia in the cutscenes but Packie's missions are unlocked by "Have a Heart" and Packie's mission unlocks Alderney.
Then how in your opinion Johnny got to Algonquin in "It's War" if bridge to Algonquin is closed? Bridges are not closed in add-ons because both Klebitz and Lopez have US citizenship. Can you imagine closing all bridges in NYC because of terrorist threat? Let's say this road blocks are something like control points. Niko doesn't have any papers stating that he has right to be there, so he can't cross them. Johnny and Luis were born in US, so they can drive freely around the city. I know that you may say, that R* should leave them for Johhny and Luis, so you need to stop and show your ID to drive further, but I believe that people will be ranting that they can't drive thru this sh*t (like it happened with booths on East Borough Bridge).