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Posted: Saturday, Sep 24 2011, 01:23
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This is now a build thread for my 1997 GMC Suburban K2500 SLT. What started out as a family hauling daily driver with candy and soda spilled about the floor, will now get a slightly redneck trail-rig/work horse exterior and drive train, and receive a more luxurious interior treatment than GMC could have imagined in 1997. THIS is how it begins.

Purchase price: $1800
Current total: $2545

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-Starter

Upgrades done:
-06 Escalade center console
-06 Escalade 6-disc in-dash CD changer
-00 Escalade door conversion
-00 Escalade seats front & rear
-Keyless entry
-Cab lights

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-Cranked torsion keys for 7/8" front lift
-Painted wheels black
-CD changer housing swap

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Replaced grill/corner lenses with new '93 style, painted wheels black, removed running boards:
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Custom fitted '06 Escalade center console. Pictures left to right: Interior before, wiring done for CD changer, interior after.
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Okay, so I've been looking for a while for a cheap 90's Suburban K2500 to hopefully eventually swap a 12-valve Cummins into.
I recently found this one on Craigslist for $2500.
1997 K2500 (4x4 3/4 ton) with 176,000 on the odometer.

So I called him up, found out it's got a 350 (was kind of hoping for a 454) explained to him my money situation, and he said he could take $2000.
While I think this a reasonable deal, my father is completely against the idea and is under the impression that for $2000 I'd better be getting a 2000+ with under 100k miles and in perfect condition. I then of course explained that would never happen.

So if you were in my position, would you consider this a good deal?
Considering the cheapest 2wd 1/2 tons are $1500-2000, all of them older and with more miles, I'd say it's not that bad. But everyone around me seems to disagree.

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Posted: Saturday, Sep 24 2011, 12:16
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That's a pretty good deal. Needs some TLC, but overall $2k is not bad for such a truck.
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Posted: Saturday, Sep 24 2011, 20:52
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Could probably get a pickup with a better stock drivetrain in it (like already with an NV4500 in it) for around the same price.
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Not so sure about that, trucks are expensive around here. Most K2500s are $3000-4000, while F-250s and Ram 2500s older than 2000 are all but extinct.
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Posted: Thursday, Sep 29 2011, 01:30
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With a new paint job that would look sweet. Just get some of the rust off and clean it up, otherwise, that's a great deal.
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Posted: Thursday, Sep 29 2011, 19:37
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Something to keep in mine is a lot of the suspension is going to have to be replaced. A cummins weighs roughly 1200 lbs. complete. An SBC is only 500 lbs. Most Suburban/chevy truck cummins swaps I see have them SAS the front with a Dana 60. I've seen someone successfully swap a Cummins into a 3/4 ton Burb like that and keep the IFS, but it was a 6.5 truck with the HD tow package so it had the heaviest duty torsion bars, springs, ball joints, and steering parts of any Suburban made. I think he still had to switch to some stiffer aftermarket springs for the additional 300 lbs. of the Cummins over the 6.5.

I've found a few older straight axle square body 3/4 ton burbs in your price range in NC. Might should check them out. Then a d60 would at least be basically bolt-in.

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Well, I got it for $1800.
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lol. I'm quite happy about finally getting one after. I'm 20 and just now getting my first vehicle, so you can imagine my excitement.
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Posted: Sunday, Oct 2 2011, 16:13
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Nice car! Looks great white on beighe.
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QUOTE (leik oh em jeez! @ Sunday, Oct 2 2011, 10:37)
lol. I'm quite happy about finally getting one after. I'm 20 and just now getting my first vehicle, so you can imagine my excitement.

I can understand, I got a '79 Suburban when I was 16.

Financial troubles meant I didn't have it for too long, but it was fun while it lasted.
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My automechanic in highschool had one just like that but red and black. Had a big steel bumper with a built in brush guard too. Still 3/4 ton, 4x4 with a 350/4L80E combo. 4L80 took a sh*t on him. Still was a fun truck to mess around in.

Is the rear end in it the 9.5 SF 14 bolt or 10.5 FF 14 bolt? Hard to tell with the centercaps on.
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Appears to be the 9.5 SF.
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Yeah, if you plan to cummins swap it, that's not going to hold up. Kaboom. Needs at least a FF 14 bolt or a d70 or d80.


Most everything will need to be swapped.

Here's a thread to a 3/4 ton Suburban with a Cummins swap. It was originally a 454 truck with the 8800 GVW package on it so it had the biggiest heaviest duty parts on it. Everything on your truck won't be enough for the Cummins.
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hmm. Looks like it'll be that much more of a project. Maybe I can find a parts truck with the higher GVWR.

Think I could get anything useful off of this truck?

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Yes. The rear end, but that's it. FF 10.5 might be bolt in and are cheap. Not sure if 1 ton spring perches are the same. A 3/4 ton with a 454 or a 6.5 will have the full float axle in it too. They're like 100 bucks or less at the junkyard. That guy might want more.

I think the 8800 package includes the 9.25 front end from a 1 ton. So if you find a 4wd 1 ton, I guess you could nab it. You've got the weaker 8.25 shared with the half ton. You'll need at least that if you stay IFS or a D60 (if you solid axled the front).

Or get a whole wrecked dodge with the cummins/nv4500/nv271/d60 front and d70 or d80 rear already in it. Then all you have to deal with is fab work to get it all in.

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Now is as good a time as any for some "before" pictures. So I got some with an actual camera after a quick wash. (cell phone cameras suck.)
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New grill installed, corner lenses should be here soon.
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And I removed the running boards.
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Losing the front valance too when I get a new bumper.
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Touch up the paint on the hood and that would be a very good looking truck. Craigslist the running boards and front valance. Could probably get a little bit out of them. The valance looks to be solid and doesn't have the normal cracks you see on them from trucks that gen.
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Waiting on my dad to pay me back $1800 he borrowed from me, which will hopefully be enough for a cheap front leveling kit and paint. I wanted to do the older style two tone in a dark forest green with a white or off white stripe down the sides.

While I'm at it, I really like the look of the sealed beam lights with this grill, but from what I've read the sealed beams suck major ass and you'd be better off taping flash lights to the hood than using them. You know of any kits or anything that use decent bulbs but maintain the look of the quad sealed beams? I've read the Holden Suburbans have great lights and still have the same look, but I'm unable to find any parts anywhere online.
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