[ETF117]

So far the responses to the new screenshots have been divided. About half are complaining that the graphics are not that stellar, even going as far to call them "bad" or "ugly". What were you expecting? I know that Watch Dogs and other games have set the bar high, but GTA IV looks phenomenal even now, imho. RDR even more so.

The screenshots look like an improvement over IV's visuals, although not a substantial one. But if you remember, III, VC and SA all had very similar graphics, with SA being the best by an extent. That's an example of progression during a console generation. Also, all of you diehard fans that populate this wonderful oddity of a forum I have come to love despite its faults should remember that SA was not a huge technical advancement, but was rather a massive advancement in terms of actual gameplay and content.

This is what I expect from GTA V: a large open world at least on par in size with RDR with extensive side missions, more vehicles, a compelling and lengthy story, and HOPEFULlY a well-integrated and robust economic system that will be very meaningful to the experience.

I don't expect Witcher 2 graphics or Battlefield graphics. I do love great visuals, but for me, and I assume most others on this forum, gameplay is the most important factor in a GAME.

I just don't think any of us have anything to worry about. GTA IV remains to this day my favorite game of all time, and it was almost certainly unfinished, imo from playing it extensively and seeing its flaws.

Rockstar has had plenty of time to expand upon IV's mastery, and also incorporate elements from the III era games that didn't make it to IV, such as character and car customization and a large map as seen in SA.

Rockstar won't let us down, so please stop complaining about everything they do just because of these tedious wait. It will be worth it in the end.

Thoughts?

[Ferocious Banger]

Another thread about this
Really?

[Carl CJ Johnsons Brother Brian]

You can believe me one thing. People will complaining about Watchdogs graphics if they see the game on the 6-8 year old consoles. I will be happy about this. F*ck the graphic-whores.

[zzcool]

if it looks better then iv/eflc

then im good as they still look stunning

[LotusRIP]

[Mr.Moffat]

with the way some people are even when we get to a satge when graphics are almost indentical to real movies people will still complain, hell even if they were the exact same as looking out the window people will still complain.

[Afusensi]

QUOTE (Ferocious Banger @ Monday, Jul 16 2012, 09:42)

Another thread about this Really?

I wasnt complaining that it looked like sh*t. But it looked like sh*t compared to the trailer. Not compared to IV.
You guys are missing the point here.

And you can call me a graphic whore all you want. At least i know what good graphics look like.

This post has been edited by Afusensi on Monday, Jul 16 2012, 10:02

[DonCaffa]

If they can master the graphics of RDR in a map size as big as GTA V would be, R*did a phenomenal job! People should not be bitching about 2 screenshots which say nothing about the actual physics and game dynamics which are a part of the game's graphics. If you are a die hard like me ( there are plenty i hope ) and check GTA V info every hour for months an months now, the screenshots and the info from R* made you very happy

[r0eladn]

QUOTE (Afusensi @ Monday, Jul 16 2012, 10:00)

QUOTE (Ferocious Banger @ Monday, Jul 16 2012, 09:42) Another thread about this Really? I wasnt complaining that it looked like sh*t. But it looked like sh*t compared to the trailer. Not compared to IV. You guys are missing the point here.

[Savagemessiah]

Well people seem to wish more for a game that looks good instead of a game that is fun to play and that will live forever. All they want is looks and then what? The graphics could look like some old Ps2 game for all I care, just make a great game and im going to love it!


And stop with this watch dog bullsh*t... The game might look good but in the end the game will be forgotten because its just so f*cking boring... What ever happened to crysis 2 for example? That game looked amazing but then again it was a really boring game..

A GTA game lives forever, everyone knows exactly how Vice city looked, everyone remember how massive GTA SA was. No matter how it will look everyone will love it!

I think the game looks better then IV but yeah.. we've only seen one trailer and 2 screenshots so stop being such f*cking retards and go play your watchdogs. We don't care

[rajkohli81]

I wasnt complaining that it looked like sh*t. But it looked like sh*t compared to the trailer. Not compared to IV.
You guys are missing the point here.

[shattered-minds]

QUOTE (Afusensi @ Monday, Jul 16 2012, 10:00)

And you can call me a graphic whore all you want. At least i know what good graphics look like.

At least you know what good graphics look like? are you saying others don't? please elaborate. I prefer a good art direction over 'good graphics' a game can have the most hi-res textures, anti-aliasing and the best lighting and shaders going and still look really ugly where as a game like Rayman Origins can look absolutely gorgeous.

[Raynos]

QUOTE (Afusensi @ Monday, Jul 16 2012, 10:00)

And you can call me a graphic whore all you want. At least i know what good graphics look like.

So, if we think the graphics look awesome, WE don't know what good graphics look like?

C'mon dude, Watchdogs is a different art style, GTA V graphics compared to Previous GTA games, looks awesome.

I think its a major improvment. Looks pretty sweet to me and I could only hope that thats what we get on console.

Beauty is objective, it doesn't mean that people have a bad graphics eye or something.

[Duplex]

Working in the game industry myself, its clear many people here are using the term "graphics" all wrong.

Graphics actually refer to how well the game presents itself, for example look at the game Mercenaries 2. The Xbox 360 version had better graphics as it was able to take advantage of crisp shaders, high res textures and high poly count models, where as the PS2 version looked terrible due to the lack of these resources.

Graphics does not equal photo realism. Rayman origins, for example, has amazing graphics. If these people who want amazing "graphics" in their Xbox or PS3, stop playing games on 5+ year old hardware. I'm not a PC fanboy by any means, I own a 360, but when I want the best experience visual wise, nothing beats my fairly cheap gaming PC.

[Raynos]

QUOTE (Duplex @ Monday, Jul 16 2012, 10:53)

Working in the game industry myself, its clear many people here are using the term "graphics" all wrong. Graphics actually refer to how well the game presents itself, for example look at the game Mercenaries 2. The Xbox 360 version had better graphics as it was able to take advantage of crisp shaders, high res textures and high poly count models, where as the PS2 version looked terrible due to the lack of these resources. Graphics does not equal photo realism. Rayman origins, for example, has amazing graphics. If these people who want amazing "graphics" in their Xbox or PS3, stop playing games on 5+ year old hardware. I'm not a PC fanboy by any means, I own a 360, but when I want the best experience visual wise, nothing beats my fairly cheap gaming PC.

Mercenaries 2 on PS3 has to be the worst port. Broken game, did so much, then got to a point where I just could no longer progress.
Floating cars, glitched missions etc etc. That was a coding fail.

[Timjones]

I like the graphics. I'd probably get an ENB just for the nice reflections but I like the 'art direction', it's much more pleasing than BF3's blue tint, lack of colour, high contrast and HUGE sun flare.

EDIT: Yes, I'm a PC player with a recently-built rig.

This post has been edited by Timjones on Monday, Jul 16 2012, 11:12

[skyfamster]

that Watch Dog demo is made on PC!
GTAV has the same graphic as LN,I'm satisfied!the rest is about game play!

[MiamiVice1984]

For some reason when i look at the pictures they released it reminds me of Saints row 3 in terms of graphics.

[darkdude]

why people never satisfied :s

[Raynos]

QUOTE (skyfamster @ Monday, Jul 16 2012, 11:11)

that Watch Dog demo is made on PC! GTAV has the same graphic as LN,I'm satisfied!the rest is about game play!

Hmm.. the GTA V screenshot looks so much better than that LA Noire one.. plus GTA V will run on the Rage engine.