[Nitro Oxid3]

What is the fastest Car in the game????
this is big

[Andreas915]

Hotring Racer. It has pretty good handling too.

[Nitro Oxid3]

is that 100%
so the Hotring Racer is the fastest car in gtavc

[JSAN ANDREAS]

I thought it was the Cheetah. It said in Gamefaqs that it was. But I may be wrong.

[Justin]

It's definately the Hotring Racer.

I believe ducking down on a PCJ600 is faster, but I can't seem to have enough control on the bike if I'm ducking...

Spuds has a list somewhere which he got from another forum. It shows the speed of every car over the length of a runway at the airport.

Fuzzy searches

[Spuds725]

QUOTE (Fuzzy Juzzy @ Apr 5 2005, 00:57)

It's definately the Hotring Racer. I believe ducking down on a PCJ600 is faster, but I can't seem to have enough control on the bike if I'm ducking... Spuds has a list somewhere which he got from another forum. It shows the speed of every car over the length of a runway at the airport. Fuzzy searches

Here is a link to the post in which I quoted from another forum-- someone did trials on all the vehicles at the airport-- overall the hotring racer is the fastest car-- the PCJ is faster if you duck. Remember this is a short distance so a vehicles acceleration will have a large impact on this-- I am relatively certain that the hot ring racer has the highest top end speed-- I think the cheetah handles the best of any car.

If someone digs through the code they could probably verify the actual highest speed possible.

[Venom]

Go with the Hotring Racer...as it has a simliar speed to PCG, but sharp turning on a bike is a b!tch. A car is more simly by using both Handbreak to stop and Reverse to stop spinning out of control.....It works.

[Samutz]

QUOTE (Spuds725 @ Apr 5 2005, 08:28)

If someone digs through the code they could probably verify the actual highest speed possible.

Looking at the numbers from the handling.cfg (unmodded) from the PC version:

Vehicle ID	Max Velocity	Acceleration
HOTRING	220.0 kmph / 136.7 mph	36.0 ms-2
CHEETAH	230.0 kmph / 142.9 mph	32.0 ms-2
INFERNUS	240.0 kmph / 149.1 mph	29.0 ms-2
BIKE (PCJ)	190.0 kmph / 118.1 mph	50.0 ms-2
SANDKING	170.0 kmph / 105.6 mph	25.0 ms-2
COMET	200.0 kmph / 124.3 mph	28.0 ms-2
STINGER	200.0 kmph / 124.3 mph	28.0 ms-2
SABRETUR	180.0 kmph / 111.8 mph	32.0 ms-2
ANGEL	190.0 kmph / 118.1 mph	45.0 ms-2
BANSHEE	200.0 kmph / 124.3 mph	33.0 ms-2
BLISTAC	200.0 kmph / 124.3 mph	30.0 ms-2

However, this doesn't take into account terrian, ducking, etc. There are some numbers towards the bottom that are labeled "LeanFwdCOM" and "LeanFwdForce", but I have no idea how they fit into the formula.

Edit: Added Sandking.
Edit2: Added units kmph and ms-2 (according to the comments in the handling.cfg), and the conversion to mph for the hell of it.

This post has been edited by Samutz on Thursday, Apr 7 2005, 23:42

[saintdave]

How fast does the sandking go?

[nikka camrone69]

If I recall correctly... the Sandking is not really that fas.. but I know for a fact that the Hotring Racer is the fastest car in the game. Oh and one more thing, shouldnt this topic be in the Gameplay section?

[Spuds725]

I think this thread is fine here-- it is a general discussion of vehicle speed.

Thanks for posting those stats samutz-- I'll have to do some math to see how long it takes for the cheetah and infernus to get up to top speed-- obviously the acceleration on the hotring racer is about 15% greater then the cheetah-- might need to figure out how long to floor it before the cheetah gets up to speed and then do time trial with a start after its up to speed to verify.... it sure doesn't feel the faster then the racer.

If you can post the comet and stinger stats also, I would be greatful.

[Samutz]

QUOTE (Spuds725 @ Apr 6 2005, 00:32)

If you can post the comet and stinger stats also, I would be greatful.

Done (edited other post).

And yes, they have the same numbers. I didn't mess up copy and paste.

[Spuds725]

Thanks alot--

These are all the cars I've used for street racing and was curious as to how they compare.

I've used the cheetah on alot of races but the times I get should be better (IMO) based on what you posted-- I might have to revisit the cheetah for a couple of races. I was told the stinger was a great car to use for "tour" but the stats say otherwise-- the comet handles better and has the same stats, the cheetah handles better with better stats.

The only other vehicle I'm curious about is the "super angel"-- available in "alloy wheels of steel" that the other bikes use--- I'm assuming the game activates the perfect handling cheat and a faster speed cheat so there probably isn't stats for that.

Thanks again....

Spuds

[Samutz]

Well for handling, there are other numbers related to brakes and suspension and well as a few other things that most likely affect it. The numbers I posted were just for speed reasons.


As for the "super" angel, it's modified through the game's mission coding. This is from the decompiles main.scm:

CODE

00A5: $1418 = create_car #ANGEL at $1412 $1413 $1414 0423: car $1418 improve_handling  2.0 0175: set_car $1418 z_angle_to $1438 00AE: unknown_set_car $1418 to_ignore_traffic_lights  2 00AD: set_car $1418 max_speed_to  63.0 02AA: set_car $1418 immune_to_nonplayer  1 0129: $140F = create_actor  4 #BKA in_car $1418 driverseat

Opcodes 0423 and 00AD, but I don't know what the game does with those numbers. Obviously, 63 kmph can't be the actual speed because the regular angel in the handling.cfg has a max velocity of 190 kmph.

I took a look at Hilary's Sabre Turbo from The Driver:

CODE

0423: car $F9C improve_handling  1.5

CODE

00AD: set_car $F9C max_speed_to  45.0

Regular Sabre Turbo: 180.0 kmph, 32.0 ms-2


My best guess is that the improve_handling number is a multiplier, but I don't know which numbers exactly it multiplies. And the max_speed_to number is either a change in the acceleration (45 ms-2) or added on the max speed (180+45=225). You'd probably have to run tests comparing the original and the modified to find out.

Edit: Added regular Sabre Turbo and Angel to other post. I'd add all the cars if there weren't over 70 of them.

This post has been edited by Samutz on Wednesday, Apr 6 2005, 17:33

[Cartoon Corpse]

hah! i thought the infernus was the fastest top end! but everyone told me it was the cheetah. infernus was my fave car first time through. now i like em all and can appreciate the variations their performance adds to the gameplay. i hardly use infernus in my current game.

[Spuds725]

Thanks again samutz---

I went ahead and edited the thread title to reflect the subject-- it was called "help" before.

[Wolfwood]

QUOTE (Andreas915 @ Apr 4 2005, 18:22)

Hotring Racer. It has pretty good handling too.

And how could I aquire myself one of these?

[Cartoon Corpse]

buy sunshine autos and do the missions. as you do them, you get more and more autos in your showroom. eventually you get a racer.

[gta3pcguy]

You don't need a chart to see the Hotring is the fastest car. You can feel it as you play the game.

[Spuds725]

Just to clarify, there are now missions for SSA per se... after you buy it, you need to go behind the showroom and look next to the garage door that doesn't open-- there is a list of cars that are to be delivered-- finish the first list and there will be another, and another, and another (4 total)-- the 4th (last) list will earn you the hotring racer.

Also--for gta3pcguy, if you look at the stats posted by Samutz-- the fastest car is the infernus, followed by the cheetah, and then the hotring racer. The hotring racer just has a higher acceleration-- so depending on how you are driving will determine which vehicle can get you from point A to point B the fastest.

Spuds