[mikeyGTA8]

sorry you's are all a bunch of sad ba*tards moaning bout i want this gun nd i dont want this , u get whats given to u when the game comes out..end off,as for the guy who wrote the big list of weapons nd the guy who wrote all the damage and accuracy per gun , yous need to get out lads these computers are destroying u,surely you have something better to sepnd your time on! sick of this site all i want to know is a release date so i can get the f*ck outta before some daft wee 14 year old reuins the game for everyone

[Alfabutt]

QUOTE (_L1pE_ @ Tuesday, Jun 19 2012, 02:37)

FN F2000

oooooooooooo.....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....i like that gun i cant remember what game its been in that i like though and its gunna bug me now maybe kane and lynch 2....i dunno but i can remember it, sounded awesome!

[Gst0395]

QUOTE (chitoryu12 @ Thursday, Jun 14 2012, 01:58)

This is just a list of what I would put in it if I was in charge. The idea is a good variety of weapons that allows players to tailor their arsenal to their preference. This list also takes into account the use of civilian legal weapons or things that you could find around the city or in buildings, rather than just lots of military grade equipment. It would allow for weapons to be scaled based on the progress made in the game and make powerful weapons more valuable. It also ensures that enemies have a much more varied list of weaponry that can be better tailored to fit the character (like a cop at 1 star using a nightstick). Unarmed * Brass knuckles * Spiked gloves (basically leather gloves with a spiked knuckle pad; more powerful than brass knuckles) Melee * Shiv * Switchblade * Bowie knife * Kitchen knife * Meat cleaver * Hatchet * Fire axe/woodcutter's axe (different models of the same weapon for different locations) * Machete * Screwdriver * Katana * Chainsaw (limited fuel) * 2x4 * Hammer * Lead pipe * Baseball bat * Golf club * Crowbar * Nightstick * Sledgehammer * Pipe wrench Handguns * Taser * Nail gun * Ruger .22 * Walther PPK * Kahr PM9 * 1911 (different variations, including military surplus single-stack and double-stack modern weapons) * Glock 17 * Beretta 92 * Desert Eagle * AMT Automag * .357 revolver SMGs * Tec-9 * MAC-10 * Skorpion * Uzi * MP5 * P90 * Thompson Shotguns * Double-barreled shotgun * Sawed-off shotgun * Remington 870 * Benelli M4 Super 90 * SPAS-12 * Saiga-12 * Cobray Street Sweeper Rifles * Winchester 1894 * Hi-Point Carbine .45 ACP * SKS * AK (various models from different countries) * AKS-74U * M4A1 * FN F2000 * SCAR-L * SCAR-H * M1A * G3 * M1 Garand * M1 Carbine * Mini-14 Sniper Rifles * Remington 700 * PSG-1 * Mosin-Nagant 91/30 * Barrett M82 Machine Guns * M249 * RPD * M60 * RPK-74 Throwing * Throwing knives * Pipe bombs * Dynamite * M67 hand grenade * Stun grenade * Smoke grenade * Incendiary grenade * Tear gas * Satchel charge Heavy * M72 LAW * AT4 * RPG-7 * M79 * Underbarrel grenade launcher (attachment for the full auto assault rifles, model changes based on weapon) * Milkor MGL * Agricultural flamethrower * M2 Flamethrower

Great list mate! I would love to have a large variety of weapons like that.

[GSi]

Il be happy with a bb gun and a plastic pirate sword.

I'm hopeful that the chainsaw comes back but I highly doubt it

[ultimatelizardman]

i want to see some weapons with (fictitious) names rather than generic "pistols" and "assault rifles". damage is based on NPCs having the same health as in GTA IV. also, the low max ammo is mainly for realism and balancing however you can resuply at any time outside of combat taking the ammo stored in the trunks of police/ military cars and cars that you own (stored in garage), taking ammunition from your vehicles costs money.

a new health system for NPCs could be used in conjunction with the new weapons, where any damage they take which exceeds their remaining HP (overkill damage) becomes a chance of instant death, rather than incapacitation which occurs automatically when somone's HP reach 0 (exept in the case of headshots, who always kill instantly unless the person is wearing a helmet).

example: NPC HP = 100, after being shot with a .357 magnum revolver which does 55 damage they have 45 HP remaining, they are then shot a second time for another 55 damage, 45 - 55 = -10 => 10% chance of instant death + 90% chance of incapacitation.

both a character's "toughness" stat and armor class will reduce the damage they take.


stat guide

damage: damage to HP.
penetration: it's level of cover and armor penetration.
* low: can shoot through glass and light items.
* moderate: can shoot through glass, light items and unarmored vehicles. ignores light body armor.
* high: can shoot through glass, medium items and unarmored vehicles. ignores light body armor.
* very high: can shoot through glass, heavy items and lightly armored vehicles. ignores medium body armor and light helmets.
* maximal: can shoot through almost anything. only applies to the armor piercing sniper rifle. ignores all body armors and helmets.
accuracy: accuracy in percentage.
capacity: ammunition the gun can hold.
reload: time it takes to reload.
range: weapon's range, same as in GTA IV.
fire rate: weapon's fire rate in rounds per minute (RPM) or shots per minute (SPM).
max ammo: maximum ammunition you can carry for that particular weapon.
zoom: how far you can zoom in, applies only to sniper rifles.
- <notes>: notes pertaining to the weapons users or special features.


HANDGUNS



P-14
a pistol based on the H&K USP chambered in 9x19mm parabellum.

damage: 35
penetration: low
accuracy : 80%
capacity: 12
reload: 2.0 sec
range: 80
fire rate: 130 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 132 + 12

- used by police, security guards, gang members and some store owners.
- can be found in the trunks of securicars.
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M-4 HP pistol
a powerfull pistol based on the desert eagle cambered in .50 AE, very powerfull but ammunition is expensive and heavy.

damage: 55
penetration: moderate
accuracy: 70%
capacity: 7
reload: 2.0 sec
range: 80
fire rate: 65 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 70 + 7

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CTP-44
a pistol based on the walther PPK, chambered in 5.7mm FN. low-damage, high penetration round.

damage: 30
penetration: high
accuracy: 75%
capacity: 8
reload: 1.8 sec
range: 70
fire rate: 150 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 216 + 8
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cobra-M11
a 4" barreled revolver chambered in .357 magnum, based on the colt python.

damage: 40
penetration: moderate
accuracy: 85%
capacity: 6
reload: 2.2 sec
range: 120
fire rate: 95 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 138 + 6

- used by some special police units and gang members.
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malopon-M2
a 2" barreled pocket revolver based on the astra 250, chambered in .32 calibre. named after the "false cobra" in reference to it's reduced power compared to the "cobra" revolvers.

damage: 35
penetration: low
accuracy: 80%
capacity: 6
reload: 2.2 sec
range: 70
fire rate: 160 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 186 + 6

- used by security guards, gang members and some store owners.
- can be found in trunks of securicars.
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silenced P-14
a pistol based on the H&K USP chambered in 9x19mm parabellum with a silencer attached.

damage: 35
penetration: low
accuracy : 70%
capacity: 12
reload: 2.0 sec
range: 80
fire rate: 130 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 132 + 12

- makes very little noise.
- accuracy reduced by added weight.
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silenced CTP-44
a pistol based on the walther PPK, chambered in 5.7mm FN. low-damage, high penetration round. silencer attached.

damage: 30
penetration: high
accuracy: 65%
capacity: 8
reload: 1.8 sec
range: 70
fire rate: 150 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 216 + 8

- makes very little noise.
- accuracy reduced by added weight.
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RIFLES


M32-4
based on the M1 garand, the M-32-4 is highly accurate and powerfull semi-auto rifle chambered in .308 winchester.

damage: 90
penetration: very high
accuracy: 90%
capacity: 8
reload: 2.0 sec
range: 480
fire rate: 95 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 128 + 8

- used by some special police units.
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R-49
a bolt-action rifle based on the k-98 chambered in .338 calibre, very powerfull but produces strong recoil also the ammunition is heavy and expensive.

damage: 120
penetration: very high
accuracy: 95%
capacity: 5
reload: 2.4 sec
range: 540
fire rate: 55 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 60 + 5
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LBR-15TT
simillar in appearance to the mosin-nagant, the LBR-15TT is a semi-auto rifle chambered in .243 calibre.

damage: 95
penetration: high
accuracy: 85%
capacity: 10
reload: 2.4 sec
range: 420
fire rate: 150 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 110 + 10
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AKA-740
based on the AK-74, due to the fact that it's chambered in 7,62 mmR it is a very powerfull rifle. name is a reference to the "AKA-47" trope.

damage: 65
penetration: moderate
accuracy: 80%
capacity: 30
reload: 2.4 sec
range: 460
fire rate: 110 SPM, 900 RPM bursts (3 round burst-fire)
max ammo: 150 + 30

- used by some criminals.
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AKA-4UU
based on the AK-7U, due to the fact that it's chambered in 7,62 mmR it produces heavy recoil although it is a very powerfull carbine. name is also a reference to the "AKA-47" trope.

damage: 55
penetration: moderate
accuracy: 70%
capacity: 30
reload: 2.4 sec
range: 380
fire rate: 120 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 150 + 30

- used by some criminals.
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M-10 SIR
based on the M16 rifle, chambered in 5,56mm nato giving it low penetration (for a rifle) and damge but high velocity.

damage: 35
penetration: moderate
accuracy: 95%
capacity: 30
reload: 2.4 sec
range: 410
fire rate: 130 SPM, 900 RPM bursts (3 round burst-fire)
max ammo: 180 + 30

- used by the military.
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M-12 SBCC
based on the M4 carbine, chambered in 5,56mm nato giving it low penetration (for a rifle) and damge but high velocity. weaker than the rifle version.

damage: 45
penetration: moderate
accuracy: 90%
capacity: 30
reload: 2.4 sec
range: 330
fire rate: 160 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 180 + 30

- used by some special police units.
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SHOTGUNS



LBSG-21
12 guage pump action shotgun based on the remington 870, accurate for a shotgun.

damage: 30 X 8 projectiles
penetration: low
accuracy: 90%
capacity: 6
reload: 3.5 sec
range: 210
fire rate: 90 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 48 + 6

- used by police.
- can be found in the trunks of police cars.
________________________________________________________________________________________________

TD-440
12 guage pump action shotgun based on the mossberg 500, very powerfull but lacks accuracy. brutal recoil.

damage: 45 X 8 projectiles
penetration: low
accuracy: 70%
capacity: 8
reload: 3.5 sec
range: 260
fire rate: 55 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 48 + 8

- used by one of the security guards in cash-transport trucks.
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TSG-111
a short barreled shotgun based on the H&K FABARM FP6, easy to use in confined spaces but lacks range making it less effective in open-air combat.

damage: 25 X 8 projectiles
penetration: low
accuracy: 75%
capacity: 6
reload: 3.4 sec
range: 90
fire rate: 130 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 48 + 6

- used by the S.W.A.T.
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sawn-off
12 guage double barrel shotgun cut down to almost half the normal size, poor accuracy but incredibly powerfull.

damage: 45 X 16 projectiles
penetration: low
accuracy: 55%
capacity: 2
reload: 1.2 sec
range: 25
fire rate: 55 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 48 + 2

- fires both shots at once.
- used by some criminals.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________



SUB MACHINE-GUNS



PCK-2L
sub machine-gun based on the MP5 with full stock chambered in 9X19mm parabellum.

damage: 40
penetration: moderate
accuracy: 65%
capacity: 30
reload: 2.2 sec
range: 130
fire rate: 900 RPM (full auto)
max ammo: 210 + 30

- used by the S.W.A.T
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PDW-80
sub machine-gun based on the P90 chambered in 5.7 mm FN. high penetration.

damage: 30
penetration: very high
accuracy: 70%
capacity: 30
reload: 2.4 sec
range: 120
fire rate: 1200 RPM (full auto)
max ammo: 240 + 30
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TSMG-552
sub machine-gun based on the ingram MAC-10 chambered in .25 ACP. fast fire rate and low recoil at the cost of power.

damage: 20
penetration: low
accuracy: 60%
capacity: 32
reload: 2.4 sec
range: 80
fire rate: 1200 RPM (full auto)
max ammo: 256 + 32

- used by some criminals.
___________________________________________________________________________________________

FACP-M36
sub machine-gun based on the thompson (box magazine) chambered in .45 ACP. high power.

damage: 55
penetration: moderate
accuracy: 65%
capacity: 30
reload: 2.4 sec
range: 160
fire rate: 900 RPM (full auto)
max ammo: 120 + 30

- used by some criminals.
___________________________________________________________________________________________

CQBMP-11
sub machine-gun based chambered in .40 S&W, based on the MP 38 (full stock).

damage: 45
penetration: moderate
accuracy: 80%
capacity: 30
reload: 2.4 sec
range: 140
fire rate: 1200 RPM (full auto)
max ammo: 180 + 30
___________________________________________________________________________________________



SNIPER RIFLES



R-127
a bolt-action rifle based on the k-98 chambered in .338 calibre which has been modified to be useable as a sniper rifle, very powerfull but produces strong recoil, also, the ammunition is heavy and expensive.

damage: 110
penetration: very high
accuracy: 95% (tremble effect when standing -5%)
capacity: 5
reload: 2.4 sec
range: 1200
fire rate: 45 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 60 + 5
zoom: X 4

- reduced damage to simulate loss of power over range.
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LDCR-800
a sniper rifle loosely based on the M40 chambered in .308 winchester, reduced power but increased capacity and fire rate compared to other sniper rifles.

damage: 95
penetration: high
accuracy: 100% (tremble effect when standing - 5%)
capacity: 5
reload: 2.2 sec
range: 1050
fire rate: 80 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 80 + 5
zoom: X 4

- used by police snipers.
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TS-500
powerfull sniper rifle chambered in .50 BMG based on the barett, can stop most vehicles with a single shot to the engine.

damage: 180
penetration: maximal
accuracy: 95% (tremble effect when standing -30%)
capacity: 5
reload: 2.2 sec
range: 1500
fire rate: 25 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 20 + 5
zoom: X 6

- extremely powerfull.
- low accuracy while standing due to extreme weight.
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LM-77
chambered in 5.8 mm, this sniper rifle is designed for long ranged supporting fire, low recoil.

damage: 70
penetration: very high
accuracy: 90% (tremble effect when standing -5%)
capacity: 10
reload: 2.0 sec
range: 1020
fire rate: 140 RPM (semi-auto)
max ammo: 120 + 10
zoom: X 5.5
_______________________________________________________________________________________________

more soon.

This post has been edited by ultimatelizardman on Thursday, Jun 21 2012, 01:43

[Cyfa]

All I know is that I want melee weapons back. I want a machete or something haha.

[Psychotic Mind]

QUOTE (mikeyGTA8 @ Tuesday, Jun 19 2012, 10:29)

sorry you's are all a bunch of sad ba*tards moaning bout i want this gun nd i dont want this , u get whats given to u when the game comes out..end off,as for the guy who wrote the big list of weapons nd the guy who wrote all the damage and accuracy per gun , yous need to get out lads these computers are destroying u,surely you have something better to sepnd your time on! sick of this site all i want to know is a release date so i can get the f*ck outta before some daft wee 14 year old reuins the game for everyone

What was the point in this? Release date? You'll get it when they're ready to give it to ya. In the meantime go f*ck a tree. Back on topic.

Magnum 500

[Swaggbro]

A F*CKING LAWNMOWER !...

[ultimatelizardman]

QUOTE (Swaggbro @ Tuesday, Jun 19 2012, 16:29)

A F*CKING LAWNMOWER !...

haha, that would actually be pretty awesome if you could customize it by adding plate armor, balistic-glass shields and a mounted machinegun or flare gun.

[chitoryu12]

QUOTE (GarrowsKai @ Tuesday, Jun 19 2012, 10:26)

Everyone going on about how a good choice of weapons would turn it into a CoD style killfest, let me remind you that SA had 40+ weapons and that was nothing like CoD.

San Andreas? That had I think 17. Red Dead Redemption is a better example because it had 30 if you include mounted weapons.

[MrAfro77]

stinger or heat seeking missiles to take down cheap air vehicles like buzzards

[HOLDMYBALLSACK]

Chainsaw

seriously it has to come back.



also mortars

[ultimatelizardman]

QUOTE (HOLDMYBALLSACK @ Wednesday, Jun 20 2012, 00:01)

Chainsaw seriously it has to come back.

chainsaws are fairly ineffective weapons due to the fact that flesh would eventually clog them up. although it could work as a temporary weapon by giving it limited durabillity both for realism and to balance out it's power (chainsaws should produce instant neutralisation).