QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 09:25)
QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 07:59)
QUOTE (Haashir911 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 06:45)
Each Game Takes Place in A Different "Universe" So That Means Each Character From a Universe DOESN'T Exist in the Other Universe.
Not true. GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City & Vice City Stories are all part of what's commonly known as the 'III Canon', where all the games' history, events and characters are somehow linked in one way or another. IV wasn't, even if there are references to it in game, mere throwbacks.
Claude from III was probably named after the character in 2 purely for convenience.
If he does exist in GTA3 then why doesn't anything from GTA2 appear in GTA3
I never said it was the same person. I actually disagree that it is. The developers at Rockstar probably just named him Claude for whatevers sake.
f*ck, I didn't know the 1st gen GTA protagonists had names, and even more to the point, we didn't even know that he was called Claude until San Andreas, everyone was going around calling him Fido up to that point. To me the link wasn't planned whatsoever. Other than by namesake. GTA2 and GTA III aren't in the same canon, which means they can't be linked at all.
QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 09:25)
QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 07:59)
QUOTE (Haashir911 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 06:45)
Each Game Takes Place in A Different "Universe" So That Means Each Character From a Universe DOESN'T Exist in the Other Universe.
Not true. GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City & Vice City Stories are all part of what's commonly known as the 'III Canon', where all the games' history, events and characters are somehow linked in one way or another. IV wasn't, even if there are references to it in game, mere throwbacks.
Claude from III was probably named after the character in 2 purely for convenience.
If he does exist in GTA3 then why doesn't anything from GTA2 appear in GTA3
I never said it was the same person. I actually disagree that it is. The developers at Rockstar probably just named him Claude for whatevers sake.
f*ck, I didn't know the 1st gen GTA protagonists had names, and even more to the point, we didn't even know that he was called Claude until San Andreas, everyone was going around calling him Fido up to that point. To me the link wasn't planned whatsoever. Other than by namesake. GTA2 and GTA III aren't in the same canon, which means they can't be linked at all.
Sorry for misunderstanding. I think they did that because in GTA3 Beta you could name him and they liked Claude so they had him as an standard name which you could change.
QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 17:46)
QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 13:06)
QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 09:25)
QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 07:59)
QUOTE (Haashir911 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 06:45)
Each Game Takes Place in A Different "Universe" So That Means Each Character From a Universe DOESN'T Exist in the Other Universe.
Not true. GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City & Vice City Stories are all part of what's commonly known as the 'III Canon', where all the games' history, events and characters are somehow linked in one way or another. IV wasn't, even if there are references to it in game, mere throwbacks.
Claude from III was probably named after the character in 2 purely for convenience.
If he does exist in GTA3 then why doesn't anything from GTA2 appear in GTA3
I never said it was the same person. I actually disagree that it is. The developers at Rockstar probably just named him Claude for whatevers sake.
f*ck, I didn't know the 1st gen GTA protagonists had names, and even more to the point, we didn't even know that he was called Claude until San Andreas, everyone was going around calling him Fido up to that point. To me the link wasn't planned whatsoever. Other than by namesake. GTA2 and GTA III aren't in the same canon, which means they can't be linked at all.
Sorry for misunderstanding. I think they did that because in GTA3 Beta you could name him and they liked Claude so they had him as an standard name which you could change.
It's cool. I think when it came to San Andreas they wanted to give him a bit more character depth as he was given more of a backstory, as it fills out the link between Liberty, Vice and SA a bit more. If you looked into it, Rockstar interlinked the cities and stories wonderfully, and when you play through all five games in the III canon you realise how incredible the story becomes.
QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 17:46)
QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 13:06)
QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 09:25)
QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 07:59)
QUOTE (Haashir911 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 06:45)
Each Game Takes Place in A Different "Universe" So That Means Each Character From a Universe DOESN'T Exist in the Other Universe.
Not true. GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City & Vice City Stories are all part of what's commonly known as the 'III Canon', where all the games' history, events and characters are somehow linked in one way or another. IV wasn't, even if there are references to it in game, mere throwbacks.
Claude from III was probably named after the character in 2 purely for convenience.
If he does exist in GTA3 then why doesn't anything from GTA2 appear in GTA3
I never said it was the same person. I actually disagree that it is. The developers at Rockstar probably just named him Claude for whatevers sake.
f*ck, I didn't know the 1st gen GTA protagonists had names, and even more to the point, we didn't even know that he was called Claude until San Andreas, everyone was going around calling him Fido up to that point. To me the link wasn't planned whatsoever. Other than by namesake. GTA2 and GTA III aren't in the same canon, which means they can't be linked at all.
Sorry for misunderstanding. I think they did that because in GTA3 Beta you could name him and they liked Claude so they had him as an standard name which you could change.
It's cool. I think when it came to San Andreas they wanted to give him a bit more character depth as he was given more of a backstory, as it fills out the link between Liberty, Vice and SA a bit more. If you looked into it, Rockstar interlinked the cities and stories wonderfully, and when you play through all five games in the III canon you realise how incredible the story becomes.
That's why GTA never fails every new GTA improves.
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GTA 3 is a reboot to gta1,london & gta 2, so Cluade Speed from GTA 2 doesnt exsist in the GTA 3 universe (3D Universe) its like how Liberty City changed in GTA 4, becuase GTA 4 was a reboot to GTA 3, the Cluade from GTA 3 is another person.
Claude on GTA II is the Claude Speed also, there's a video/ trailer of GTA that exist involving real people portraying Claude and other characters. In there you can see Claude of GTA II looking 90% Claude Speed. I believe that Claude Speed.
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QUOTE (Target13 @ Friday, Apr 5 2013, 22:54)
GTA 3 is a reboot to gta1,london & gta 2, so Cluade Speed from GTA 2 doesnt exsist in the GTA 3 universe (3D Universe) its like how Liberty City changed in GTA 4, becuase GTA 4 was a reboot to GTA 3, the Cluade from GTA 3 is another person.
I Agree.
Basically, From Day One I have always held the same opinion in that Claude from GTA III is different to that of 2.
“Hello, I just want to know if Claude Speed (GTA 2) and Claude (GTA III) are the same person. So, are they the same person? Anyway, thanks for all fun you guys are giving me with these games, I'm a BIG FAN of the Grand Theft Auto series and Red Dead Redemption!” - received via Mouthoff
Probably. It seems very likely but it’s also possible that there are just a lot of angry silent car thieves called Claude out there
There are many references to GTAIII characters and brands (El Burro graffiti in LC for example) in GTAIV, but do any characters (other than Lazlow) actually exist within both 'universes'? Is that where Donald Love went? Did he hop dimensions into the GTAIV universe?! Plot twist!! Are the two universes completely separate? I understand it'd make almost no sense having two Liberty City's but is there any way we'll see characters from GTAIII return? GTAIV has some amazing characters, but some of the characters in the III era are just unforgettable.
El Burro is referenced as he was also referenced in GTA 1, so it felt appropriate that he should cross “universes” – the “universes” are the worlds interpreted at different definitions, 2d, 3d and high definition, so we felt brands and radio / back ground characters would exist in both, but 3 dimensional characters would not. This is the logic (as far as it could be considered logical) behind it – so no, we don’t believe any GTA3 characters could exist in the GTA4 universe.
Both statements are somehow contradicting each other. At the end of the day, I would say that it's the decision of each fan whether Claude Speed from GTA2 and Claude from GTA III are the same person or not. By the logic of the "Grand Theft Auto III: Your Questions Answered – Part One (Claude, Darkel & Other Characters)"-article, Claude from GTA2 and GTA III are not the same person because the former one would belong to the 2D-era while the latter one would belong to the 3D-era.
I think when it came to San Andreas they wanted to give him a bit more character depth as he was given more of a backstory, as it fills out the link between Liberty, Vice and SA a bit more. If you looked into it, Rockstar interlinked the cities and stories wonderfully, and when you play through all five games in the III canon you realise how incredible the story becomes. 
