[Diesel]

OK, phase two of operation Barton-cleanup. The last discussion topic got completely wiped of my posts, and seeing as I'm the vehicles guru, that's kinda a major problem. So here we go again.

In this topic you can discuss anything and everything to do with vehicles. Vehicles you'd like to see in the mod, comments on vehicles, whatever. I'll be updating this post with pictures of the cars I've finished as well as posting them throughout the thread, so if you haven't visited this before or you've been away for a while, you can check back here and see any updates. Download links can be found in the pinned Vehicles List topic. Posted with the oldest first and the newest last, on with the vehicle pictures:

Bulldozer


Corgette


Corgette Police


Police Car


Brabust V12


This post has been edited by DieselGT on Thursday, Dec 18 2003, 23:41

[Snow Racer]

I say 2 much this but I say it again good job
& here is my pic


(if it's 2 big for you then tell me )

need 2 do: windows . under .

need 2 do for game: dummys , TXD

[Demarest]

In regards to Barton's abuse of power, I feel constrained to quote Hannibal Lecter from Silence of the Lambs: "I would not have had that happen to you; discourtesy is unspeakably ugly to me." So yeah, nothing to contribute but to say I'm sorry that happened to you and am glad to see you willing to pick up the pieces and press on just the same

[Barton Waterduck]

Ok, I need a limo. For a limo service. Can I use the original one ? Will the original limo be replaced with something that isn't a limo ? Need a limo service building too. And maby some limo mission ideas in case a standard limo service gets boring. And in case you can't post about all that here, post where it fits, like make a new topic about your work in progress limo service or post about all of it in the mission script thread.

And since I'm here already, the predator police boat (or a working replacement with guns workin) is required for my (or illspirit's for that matter) water patrol mission.

edit: Could be that REspawn decides to do the building.


This post has been edited by Barton Waterduck on Wednesday, Dec 17 2003, 19:17

[Cerbera]

As this is discussion on ALL aspects of vehicles, this is where I'll post the handling setups I do for the cars of Myriad. After discussing with it at great length with DieselGT, we've decided that I'll do my customary style of handling and then do a second version which is just for compatibility with Vice. This means that for the bulldozer, I'd just change the flags it requires, re-set the suspension and that'll be that.

Hopefully people will clamour for my setups and will say they don't want these compatibility versions!


(EDIT) Here's the Brabus Mercedes V12 done:

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;Brabus Mercedes MAFIA           1650.0 1.7 4.4 1.4 0.0  0.00 0.20 75 0.78 0.70 0.50 5 230.0 26.0 R P 4.0 0.67 0 22.5  1.15 0.13 0.20 0.00 35000 0.25 -0.10 0.50 0.0 0002103 0  1 ;

Wheel size: 0.76

Corgette

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;Corgette BANSHEE         1550.0 1.8 4.5 1.2 0.0 -0.02 0.18 75 0.80 0.65 0.48 5 270.0 28.0 R P 4.0 0.67 0 22.5  1.10 0.12 0.35 0.00 45000 0.10 -0.20 0.50 0.0 1000901 1  1

Wheel size: 0.78

FBI Corgette:

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;FBI Corgette BLOODRB         1550.0 1.8 4.5 1.2 0.0 -0.02 0.18 75 0.82 0.68 0.48 5 290.0 30.0 R P 4.2 0.67 0 22.5  1.20 0.14 0.35 0.00 45000 0.10 -0.20 0.50 0.0 1000101 1  1

Uses a specially altered default.ide so it uses the BLOODRB handling instead of the CHEETAH one. Theres are the new lines to replace in default.ide:

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235,  bloodrb,  bloodrb,  car,  BLOODRA,  BLOODRB,   null, ignore,  10,  7, 4fff,  253, 0.7 236,  vicechee,  vicechee,  car,  BLOODRB,  VICECHEE,   null, ignore,  10,  7, 0,  250, 0.80

Police Ford Victoria:

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;Ford Victoria POLICE          1600.0 1.7 4.7 1.3 0.0 -0.01 0.22 75 0.74 0.65 0.50 5 210.0 21.0 R P 3.5 0.67 0 22.5  1.00 0.12 0.30 0.00 25000 0.25 -0.15 0.50 0.0 0001002 0  1

Wheel size:

Bulldozer
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This post has been edited by Cerbera on Friday, Jul 30 2004, 09:06

[Diesel]

QUOTE (Barton Waterduck @ Dec 17 2003, 19:55)

Ok, I need a limo. For a limo service. Can I use the original one ? Will the original limo be replaced with something that isn't a limo ? Need a limo service building too. And maby some limo mission ideas in case a standard limo service gets boring. And in case you can't post about all that here, post where it fits, like make a new topic about your work in progress limo service or post about all of it in the mission script thread. And since I'm here already, the predator police boat (or a working replacement with guns workin) is required for my (or illspirit's for that matter) water patrol mission. edit: Could be that REspawn decides to do the building.

Limo; use the original one for your coding. It'll be replaced with a different limo (but still a limo) when it's done, so don't worry. You can generally make that assumption with most cars, except some cars which I'll tell you about if the time comes.

Predator; same again. Haven't actually though of what to replace that with yet though... hmm... But anyway, have a predator in the code without fear.

[Barton Waterduck]

QUOTE (DieselGT @ Dec 17 2003, 22:09)

QUOTE (Barton Waterduck @ Dec 17 2003, 19:55) Ok, I need a limo. For a limo service. Can I use the original one ? Will the original limo be replaced with something that isn't a limo ? Need a limo service building too. And maby some limo mission ideas in case a standard limo service gets boring. And in case you can't post about all that here, post where it fits, like make a new topic about your work in progress limo service or post about all of it in the mission script thread. And since I'm here already, the predator police boat (or a working replacement with guns workin) is required for my (or illspirit's for that matter) water patrol mission. edit: Could be that REspawn decides to do the building. Limo; use the original one for your coding. It'll be replaced with a different limo (but still a limo) when it's done, so don't worry. You can generally make that assumption with most cars, except some cars which I'll tell you about if the time comes. Predator; same again. Haven't actually though of what to replace that with yet though... hmm... But anyway, have a predator in the code without fear.

Would help if you don't have any plans about changing the model names in the 'default.ide' file. You can, but the mission builders and the mission script use those names (the mission builder reads the 'default.ide' file when it starts up), so any newbie coders could get problems with it.

[Diesel]

QUOTE (Barton Waterduck @ Dec 18 2003, 17:04)

QUOTE (DieselGT @ Dec 17 2003, 22:09) QUOTE (Barton Waterduck @ Dec 17 2003, 19:55) Ok, I need a limo. For a limo service. Can I use the original one ? Will the original limo be replaced with something that isn't a limo ? Need a limo service building too. And maby some limo mission ideas in case a standard limo service gets boring. And in case you can't post about all that here, post where it fits, like make a new topic about your work in progress limo service or post about all of it in the mission script thread. And since I'm here already, the predator police boat (or a working replacement with guns workin) is required for my (or illspirit's for that matter) water patrol mission. edit: Could be that REspawn decides to do the building. Limo; use the original one for your coding. It'll be replaced with a different limo (but still a limo) when it's done, so don't worry. You can generally make that assumption with most cars, except some cars which I'll tell you about if the time comes. Predator; same again. Haven't actually though of what to replace that with yet though... hmm... But anyway, have a predator in the code without fear. Would help if you don't have any plans about changing the model names in the 'default.ide' file. You can, but the mission builders and the mission script use those names (the mission builder reads the 'default.ide' file when it starts up), so any newbie coders could get problems with it.

Yeah, I won't. Don't worry. I wasn't going to anyway - means less writing in the readme for me.

[Diesel]

*double post*

*bump*


Brabust V12


Download

[Barton Waterduck]

Questions:
- Where are the vehicle COL files ? I don't want my game to crash.
- Crown Court v1.0 doesn't have any police.txd or police.dff. It has an albert.dff and albert.txd

[Opius]

Imported cars generally use the old vehicles COL file. I think the bulldozer would be the only that would need a new one, since the shape is a lot different from the original.

[caponester]

you rename albert.dff and albert.txd to police.dff and police.txd and vehicles col files are in your models/coll folder in the file vehicles col

[Diesel]

QUOTE (Opius @ Dec 19 2003, 16:07)

Imported cars generally use the old vehicles COL file. I think the bulldozer would be the only that would need a new one, since the shape is a lot different from the original.

Yes.

Barton, yeah um I guess I must have forgotten to rename them before I put them in the zip. They're the right files, you just gotta rename them.

DieselGT adds "upload corrected police zip" to To Do... list

[Barton Waterduck]

QUOTE (caponester @ Dec 19 2003, 16:08)

you rename albert.dff and albert.txd to police.dff and police.txd and vehicles col files are in your models/coll folder in the file vehicles col

No alberts in the readme. Anyway, I guess I'll just install it all and start working on the code for DieselGT's, uh, scrap yard with docs.

Which brings up another question. I was talking about a garbage truck mission earlier. I need a garbage truck. I guess the original can be used. I'll just see if I can find a spot for it inside the scrap yard. Brainstorm: How about a mission where you steal scrap ? You could trash cars and steal the remains of them. That could bring in some interesting stuff, like weapons, wanted levels ...


This post has been edited by Barton Waterduck on Friday, Dec 19 2003, 15:18

[Diesel]

QUOTE (Barton Waterduck @ Dec 19 2003, 16:12)

QUOTE (caponester @ Dec 19 2003, 16:08) you rename albert.dff and albert.txd to police.dff and police.txd and vehicles col files are in your models/coll folder in the file vehicles col No alberts in the readme.

Royal Albert was my working title during the construction of the car. I changed the name to Crown Court just before I released.

If you're struggling, do a find and replace in the readme. Find "police.dff" and replace with "albert.dff", and find "police.txd" and replace with "albert.txd". Or if you can't be bothered, download the car from the same link in a few minutes time when I update it.

[Barton Waterduck]

Been thinking about that tractor. Is it out of the question ? I think Myriad needs some weed humour (in a mission).
We could start a new topic dedicated to "weed humour".


This post has been edited by Barton Waterduck on Monday, Dec 22 2003, 02:38

[Skatan]

someone needs to make a f*cking boogey van.

[Cerbera]

QUOTE (Barton Waterduck @ Dec 22 2003, 02:34)

Been thinking about that tractor. Is it out of the question ? I think Myriad needs some weed humour (in a mission). We could start a new topic dedicated to "weed humour".

Delfi has told you about five times that he's made a tractor which we can use.

I've started a setup for the bulldozer. Diesel, can you change how the wheels are set up so they operate like the Rhino ones? It looks weird having just one pair of wheels steering on the bulldozer. Either 4 wheels would steer or none would imho.

[Diesel]

QUOTE (Cerbera @ Dec 23 2003, 00:52)

I've started a setup for the bulldozer. Diesel, can you change how the wheels are set up so they operate like the Rhino ones? It looks weird having just one pair of wheels steering on the bulldozer. Either 4 wheels would steer or none would imho.

I believe it's hard coded.

[Cerbera]

QUOTE (DieselGT @ Dec 22 2003, 23:59)

QUOTE (Cerbera @ Dec 23 2003, 00:52) I've started a setup for the bulldozer.  Diesel, can you change how the wheels are set up so they operate like the Rhino ones?  It looks weird having just one pair of wheels steering on the bulldozer.  Either 4 wheels would steer or none would imho. I believe it's hard coded.

Gah. In that case, I shall probably set it as rear wheel drive only so the fronts don't light up in that annoying way at low speeds when changing the steering direction. Oh, would you consider switching it round to rear wheel steer instead of front, perhaps? I could balance it out better than Illspirit's forklift truck now I have a better understanding of the mass and traction bias.
Speaking of the forklift, perhaps we should see about using it here in Myriad as a car in the "ignore" default.ide class so it's only used in missions, maybe have a couple parked in warehouse type areas?

Any ideas how heavy it would be? I'd stuck between 15tonnes for it's size and 8 tonnes because of the wheels.

This post has been edited by Cerbera on Tuesday, Dec 23 2003, 06:57