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 Did Dimitri save Niko's life?

 
abcd_  
Posted: Friday, Jun 8 2012, 00:32
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If you fail the mission "Do You Have Protection?" it will unlock another conversation between Dimitri and Niko and he tells Niko that he had to persuade Mikhail not to kill him and Roman.



Dimitri How is your cousin, Roman, after the incident the other day?
Niko Once he learns to control his bowels again he will be good. Mikhail
f*cked up his guts pretty bad.
Dimitri At least he's alive, eh? Mikhail don't always go for the gut shots.
Niko I guess Roman's real lucky then. I wonder what big favor Faustin's
gonna do for him next?
Dimitri You got to remember, you killed Vlad. That angered Mikhail no matter
what he said. It was very difficult for me to persuade him that a man
like you could be more useful to us alive than dead.
Niko You trying to tell me that I owe you my life?
Dimitri No, I'm not. I was trying to tell you, that I am a man who appreciates
a good business venture when one comes along. Mikhail is making enemies
very rapidly, a friend like you is useful. You are a man worth having
on our side.
Niko Pleased to be of use.


In "The Master and the Molotov" Mikhail says that he showed kindness to Niko and his cousin when Dimitri wanted him dead.

Then in the last mission if you choose Deal Dimitri implies once again that he convinced Mikhail to spare Niko and Roman's life by saying "I should have let Faustin kill you!"

So who's lying, Dimitri or Mikhail?
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Posted: Friday, Jun 8 2012, 00:41
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As bizarre as it sounds I strongly believe that Faustin was telling the truth as in "Crime And Punishment" Faustin said that Niko will now work for him as payback for what he did to Vlad, instead of just putting a bullet in his head there and then. Well Faustin even came out and said that he never liked Vlad to begin with and that he only kept him around because he [Faustin] "bangs his [Vlad] sister", as mentioned in the same mission.

Also in "The Master And The Molotov" Faustin mentions that America has made Dimitri greedy, and that he will soon enough turn on Niko as he did with him (which later turned out to be exactly true in "Russian Revolution").
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Posted: Friday, Jun 8 2012, 01:06
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Alex you may be right but I find it odd that in "A Revenger's Tragedy" Dimitri sticks with his story about Mikhail wanting him dead. You would think that he would be honest about it by then and admit that it was his idea to kill Niko and Roman. Mikhail was a certified nutcase around the time he met Niko too so it's not too hard to believe that he wanted them dead. Plus it kind of suits Dimitri's personality - he puts business first and uses people until they're no longer of any use to him.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 8 2012, 01:55
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Dimitri is a snake, and snakes say things when they are in trouble to try to wriggle themselves out of such situations.

Faustin never really lies. He always has a brutal, impulsive attitude to him so the truth is always in the open from him.

I'm going to go with Faustin.
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Mokrie Dela  
Posted: Friday, Jun 8 2012, 14:10
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faustin was a good character. I liked him, sad i had to kill him, but that's how it goes. Dmitri was weasel - saying he was helping you out just to soften you up.

Faustin never tried to f*ck you over, Dimitri couldnt stop.

I wish R* put in a story branch there tbh, allowing you to not kill mikhail.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 8 2012, 17:38
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I believed Faustin, and I also would have kept him alive if I could, and killed Dimitri instead.
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Posted: Friday, Jun 8 2012, 18:13
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I liked Faustin the first time I saw him in GTA IV back in 2008 . He was a crazy but at least he don't shot Niko, Roman was crying like a pu**y , he deserve'd that shot in the stomach lol...
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Posted: Friday, Jun 8 2012, 20:24
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QUOTE (fastetshot @ Friday, Jun 8 2012, 18:13)
Roman was crying like a pu**y , he deserve'd that shot in the stomach lol...

Yeah, because you would have totally kept it together after a bullet in the stomach.
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Posted: Saturday, Jun 9 2012, 11:26
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Faustin was obviously telling the truth. He was a psychopath, but he wasn't a snake like Dmitri.
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I honestly didn't want to kill Faustin. Yes he was a nutcase and had a hard time controlling himself but he was alot more honest than Dimitri, who was a snake the whole time.
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Posted: Sunday, Jun 10 2012, 19:47
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I regret killing Mikhail but at the same time it was kind of for the best because most of us probably wouldn't appreciate him as much as we do now had he lived. Also, 'Russian Revolution'/the Bulgarin thing was inevitable, so even if TMatM didn't happen he probably would've turned against Niko along with Dimitri so we would probably have to kill him eventually anyway.


And Illousion: Faustin shot Roman because he wouldn't stop "crying"/screaming, he wouldn't shut up so he deserved it. I think that's what fastetshot means.
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QUOTE (abcd_ @ Friday, Jun 8 2012, 00:32)
If you fail the mission "Do You Have Protection?" it will unlock another conversation between Dimitri and Niko and he tells Niko that he had to persuade Mikhail not to kill him and Roman.



Dimitri How is your cousin, Roman, after the incident the other day?
Niko Once he learns to control his bowels again he will be good. Mikhail
f*cked up his guts pretty bad.
Dimitri At least he's alive, eh? Mikhail don't always go for the gut shots.
Niko I guess Roman's real lucky then. I wonder what big favor Faustin's
gonna do for him next?
Dimitri You got to remember, you killed Vlad. That angered Mikhail no matter
what he said. It was very difficult for me to persuade him that a man
like you could be more useful to us alive than dead.
Niko You trying to tell me that I owe you my life?
Dimitri No, I'm not. I was trying to tell you, that I am a man who appreciates
a good business venture when one comes along. Mikhail is making enemies
very rapidly, a friend like you is useful. You are a man worth having
on our side.
Niko Pleased to be of use.


In "The Master and the Molotov" Mikhail says that he showed kindness to Niko and his cousin when Dimitri wanted him dead.

Then in the last mission if you choose Deal Dimitri implies once again that he convinced Mikhail to spare Niko and Roman's life by saying "I should have let Faustin kill you!"

So who's lying, Dimitri or Mikhail?

it's a tough one. dimitri is a born liar, but let's face it, you got a gun to your face you will lie to get out of it. If I had to choose it would be dimitri lying, or probably both, nobody wanted to kill niko but they are saying the other did.
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Posted: Thursday, Jun 14 2012, 04:36
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QUOTE (Mokrie Dela @ Friday, Jun 8 2012, 14:10)
faustin was a good character. I liked him, sad i had to kill him, but that's how it goes. Dmitri was weasel - saying he was helping you out just to soften you up.

Faustin never tried to f*ck you over, Dimitri couldnt stop.

I wish R* put in a story branch there tbh, allowing you to not kill mikhail.

Either seem entirely plausable. Faustin is the better character though in that he's just more interesting with his out of control coke & booze fueled behavior. (although Jimmy P was hands down to funniest character with his hilarious/psychotic ranting and raving) What I wish they put in was a story option not to kill Aiden after you spring him out of police transport, I felt bad having to kill the poor bastard. Which is why I always end up killing Derrick later on, the smacked out jerk.
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Faustin was cool , he was killed to early in the game.
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Posted: Thursday, Jun 14 2012, 13:00
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Lol Derrick and Francis McReary were both as bad as each other.
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Posted: Thursday, Jun 14 2012, 16:50
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Judging from the mission where you kill Faustin, didn't he pretty much turned against Niko, anyway (or he would have, if not)? Besides, how did he know that Niko was coming to kill him?
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QUOTE (Alpheus @ Wednesday, Jun 13 2012, 23:36)
QUOTE (Mokrie Dela @ Friday, Jun 8 2012, 14:10)
faustin was a good character. I liked him, sad i had to kill him, but that's how it goes. Dmitri was weasel - saying he was helping you out just to soften you up.

Faustin never tried to f*ck you over, Dimitri couldnt stop.

I wish R* put in a story branch there tbh, allowing you to not kill mikhail.

Either seem entirely plausable. Faustin is the better character though in that he's just more interesting with his out of control coke & booze fueled behavior. (although Jimmy P was hands down to funniest character with his hilarious/psychotic ranting and raving) What I wish they put in was a story option not to kill Aiden after you spring him out of police transport, I felt bad having to kill the poor bastard. Which is why I always end up killing Derrick later on, the smacked out jerk.

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I agree so much. Derrick was a drug addict and would turn on you just as easily as Francis would, plus Derrick has a history of ratting his friends out so it made the decision even easier for me. I don't even feel bad after killing him.

@TheKryptonite

Faustin turned on Niko because he somehow found out about Dimitri and Niko plotting to kill him so it's understandable. However, I DO believe that Faustin would have turned against Niko anyway, especially if Dimitri was still around.
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I agree with what Mokrie Dela and Alex said.
Too bad you had to kill him, he was overdescribed, sure may be aggressive,
but he was good, Dimitri lied since day 1.
Faustin is the one telling the truth.
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Dimitri manipulated us all into believing he was the good one.
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